lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20140427114924.GB21935@gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:49:24 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
Cc:	Mathias Krause <minipli@...glemail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf x86: Fix perf to use non-executable stack, again


* Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:03:50PM +0200, Mathias Krause wrote:
> 
> SNIP
> 
> > >> 1.7.10.4
> > >>
> > >
> > > hum, how about fixing this once and for all.. ;-)
> > > please check attached patch, thanks
> > 
> > Yeah, I thought about this option too but declined it for two reasons:
> > 1/ The kernel sources should provide good quality examples, even for
> > usage outside of the kernel. Imagine somebody taking the memcpy
> > implementation for his own project but not copying the LDFLAGS. That
> > would make his code have an executable stack while with the .GNU-stack
> > marker in the assembler file it won't.
> 
> that 'somebody' should check/know better ;-) but ok, fair enough
> 
> > 2/ What if somebody tries to add/link code to perf that makes use of
> > nested functions? That'll make perf fail as the trampoline code
> > generated by gcc won't be executable due to the enforced
> > non-executable stack by -Wl,-z,noexecstack.
> 
> I guess in that case he would change the Makefile as well?
> 
> anyway I have no objection for leaving that code in assembly
> objects, but I suggest we use the global option as well to
> prevent any future surprise..

Correct. Regression in this area is 'silent' and can go unnoticed for 
long, because it has no functional side effects. So being defensive 
and forcing the secure option we want is important.

That way if an executable stack is needed by a patch then perf will 
break visibly, and the patch that relies on an executable stack can be 
fixed ...

So for the combo solution:

Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>

Thanks,

	Ingo
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ