Message-ID: <53690560.1070403@linux.intel.com>
Date:	Tue, 06 May 2014 08:53:04 -0700
From:	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.de>
CC:	"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@...el.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@...sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] coretemp.0 folder contents changed

On 05/06/2014 08:20 AM, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
> On 05/06/2014 04:55 AM, Jean Delvare wrote:
>> Hi Guenter, Srinivas,
>>
>> On Mon, 5 May 2014 10:32:31 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:13:11AM -0700, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
>>>> for kernel : 3.15.rc3 .
>>>>
>>>> Is there any change in the coretemp? Previously we used to see,
>>>> tempx data (like temp2_input, temp2_max etc.)
>>>> /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/.
>>> That isn't where you are supposed to look for hwmon attributes.
>> Actually I used to recommend looking there when people were not using
>> libsensors (e.g. for pwmconfig / fancontrol or custom scripts.) This
>> path had the great merit of being stable across reboots, while hwmon
>> class device numbers are not (or at least they aren't guaranteed to be.)
> I maintain thermal daemon, which was using the path. So once Ubuntu 
> upgrade kernel,
> this will break. So I have to make sure that corresponding user space 
> change is submitted.
> I don't want to depend on too many libraries as it also runs on many 
> embedded platforms
> where many library pre-builts don't exists.
>>> (...)
>>> To give you the background, hwmon attributes are in the process of
>>> being moved from the parent device to the hwmon device, or from
>>> /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/device/ to /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/,
>>> as part of an effort to streamline the code and make it more
>>> consistent and maintainable.
>> I am just realizing that we are also losing the stability of hardware
>> device based paths with that move :( I suppose I shouldn't have
>> bothered adding support for this to fancontrol.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, I still believe this is the right move, but I fear
>> that the question of persistent hwmon device names will resurface every
>> now and then again. libsensors offers a solution but 1* it lacks
>> support for pwm attributes and 2* it doesn't help with shell or perl
>> scripts such as pwmconfig and fancontrol.
> Also when using Android like platform with limited library support,
> we have to make sure that libsensor exists.
>
>
Also some documents which can be downloaded from intel.com, refers to 
this path.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/cpu-monitoring-dts-peci-paper.html
So we need to request document owners to update path. But it is possible 
that OEM/ODMs also
has similar documents or refer to such documentation.

> Thanks,
> Srinivas
>
>
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