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Message-ID: <CAJAp7OiyjefyPMu2p8jTkbfQWYUKeYV62pVTtJ2JOP-6YOOGKA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 7 May 2014 08:12:17 -0700
From:	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn@...o.se>
To:	Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com>
Cc:	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Josh Cartwright <joshc@...eaurora.org>,
	Courtney Cavin <courtney.cavin@...ymobile.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] devicetree, qcomm PMIC: fix node name conflict

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com> wrote:
>> An issue with the path of SPMI nodes under /sys/bus/... was reported in
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/23/312.  The symptom is that two different
>> grandchild nodes of the spmi with the same node-name@...t-address will
>> result in attempting to create duplicate links at
>> /sys/bus/platform/devices/unit-address.node-name.  It turns out that the
>> specific example provided might not be an expected configuration for
>> current hardware, but the reported trap remains an issue.
>>
>> I have been poking at the problem, trying to figure out how to cleanly
>> fix the issue without breaking devicetree device creation.
>>
>> The first patch in the series is the one that may be a very bad idea.  Or
>> it may help show the way forward to deal with what I think is the major
>> underlying problem.  I have not finished investigating the possible negative
>> side effects.  And I am still thinking whether this is a conceptually good
>> approach, or whether it is simply an expediant hack that hides the underlying
>> problem.  But I am throwing this out prematurely because I have mentioned
>> it to several people, and I want to make it visible to everyone involved.
>>
>> The underlying architectural problem (in my opinion) is that a lot of devices
>> are created by the device tree infrastructure as platform devices, when they
>> truly should not be platform devices.  They should not be platform devices
>> because they are not physically on a platform bus, they are instead somewhere
>> below some other bus.  The first patch in this series is a hack which
>> results in the devices still being represented by "struct platform_device"
>> objects, but with a link to their parent's "struct bus_type" instead of
>> to &platform_bus_type.
>>
>> The second patch does not require the first patch.  The second patch provides
>> a mechanism to allow subsystems to provide a method of naming devices to
>> avoid name collisions.
>>
>> The third patch provides an example of a subsystem using the new feature
>> provided by the second patch.
>>
>
> I think the primary question to ask is there any added benefit to
> having the additional hierarchy of devices. I don't think there is
> much support to have more hierarchy from what I have seen of past
> discussions.
>
> Another approach could be to support having multiple platform bus
> instances. Then drivers can easily create a new instance for each set
> of sub-devices.
>
> This can be solved in a much less invasive way just in the DT naming
> algorithm. This is slightly different from what I had suggested of
> just dropping the unit address. It keeps the unit address, but adds
> the unique index on untranslate-able addresses. The diff is bigger due
> to refactoring to reduce the indentation levels. It is untested and
> whitespace corrupted:

The unique index leads to an interesting dependency between the order
of nodes in the DTB and userspace; paths to e.g. our the path to our
block devices contains soc.X where X changes now and then. Fortunately
soc.X won't change that often, but forcing more peripheral nodes to use
the same schema would show the problem quite often.

Does translatable/untranslatable refer to if this is an address translatable
my the cpu or that it's just a translatable address on this specific bus?
As far as I can see it's the latter and in our case (revid { reg =
<0x100, 0x100>; })
seem to be translatable with the current implementation.

Regards,
Bjorn
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