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Date:	Thu, 15 May 2014 12:13:56 +0200
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@...com>, Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@...hat.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] fs: print a message when freezing/unfreezing
 filesystems

On Thu 15-05-14 08:37:45, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:00:52AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:39:45PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 14-05-14 13:26:21, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:14:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > > On Wed 14-05-14 00:04:43, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > > > > > This helps hang troubleshooting efforts when only dmesg is available.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > While here remove code duplication with MS_RDONLY case and fix a
> > > > > > whitespace nit.
> > > > >   I'm somewhat undecided here I have to say. On one hand I don't like
> > > > > printing to kernel log when everything is fine and kernel is operating
> > > > > normally. On the other hand I've seen quite a few cases where people have
> > > > > shot themselves in the foot with filesystem freezing so having some trace
> > > > > of this in the log doesn't seem like a completely bad thing either. What do
> > > > > other people think?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to note that the kernel already prints messages when e.g.
> > > > filesystems get mounted.
> > >   Yeah, that's a fair point.
> > 
> > But filesystems choose to output that info, not the VFS. When you do
> > a remount,ro there is no output in syslog, because filesystems don't
> > need to dump any output - the state change is reflected in
> > /proc/self/mounts. IMO frozen should state should be communicated
> > the same way so that it is silent when it just works, and the state
> > can easily be determined when something goes wrong.
> 
> Say, like this:
> 
> $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts
> /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0
> $ sudo xfs_freeze -f /mnt/test
> $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts
> /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,frozen,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0
> $ sudo xfs_freeze -u /mnt/test
> $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts
> /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0
> $
> 
> Patch below does this.
  Hum, same as Eric I'm not very enthusiastic about a fake mount option in
/proc/mounts. Maybe we could stuff some extra field in /proc/self/mountinfo?

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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