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Date:	Thu, 15 May 2014 11:42:30 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>,
	xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org
CC:	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, x86@...nel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] x86: skip check for spurious faults for non-present
 faults

On 04/15/2014 07:15 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> If a fault on a kernel address is due to a non-present page, then it
> cannot be the result of stale TLB entry from a protection change (RO
> to RW or NX to X).  Thus the pagetable walk in spurious_fault() can be
> skipped.

Erk... this code is screaming WTF to me.  The x86 architecture is such
that the CPU is responsible for avoiding these faults.

<dig> <dig> <dig>

5b727a3b0158a129827c21ce3bfb0ba997e8ddd0

    x86: ignore spurious faults

    When changing a kernel page from RO->RW, it's OK to leave stale TLB
    entries around, since doing a global flush is expensive and they
    pose no security problem.  They can, however, generate a spurious
    fault, which we should catch and simply return from (which will
    have the side-effect of reloading the TLB to the current PTE).

    This can occur when running under Xen, because it frequently changes
    kernel pages from RW->RO->RW to implement Xen's pagetable semantics.
    It could also occur when using CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC, since it
    avoids doing a global TLB flush after changing page permissions.

    Signed-off-by: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...source.com>
    Cc: Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>
    Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
    Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>

Again WTF?

Are we chasing hardware errata here?  Or did someone go off and *assume*
that the x86 hardware architecture work a certain way?  Or is there
something way more subtle going on?

I guess next step is mailing list archaeology...

Does anyone still have contacts with Jeremy, and if so, could they poke
him perhaps?

	-hpa

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