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Date:	Sun, 1 Jun 2014 14:46:57 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	John David Anglin <dave.anglin@...l.net>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	jejb@...isc-linux.org, deller@....de, linux-parisc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, chegu_vinod@...com,
	Waiman.Long@...com, tglx@...utronix.de, riel@...hat.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, davidlohr@...com, hpa@...or.com,
	andi@...stfloor.org, aswin@...com, scott.norton@...com,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix a race condition in cancelable mcs spinlocks

On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 11:30:03PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 04:46:26PM -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
> > On 1-Jun-14, at 3:20 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > >>If you write to some variable with ACCESS_ONCE and use cmpxchg or xchg
> > >>at
> > >>the same time, you break it. ACCESS_ONCE doesn't take the hashed
> > >>spinlock,
> > >>so, in this case, cmpxchg or xchg isn't really atomic at all.
> > >
> > >And this is really the first place in the kernel that breaks like this?
> > >I've been using xchg() and cmpxchg() without such consideration for
> > >quite a while.
> > 
> > I believe Mikulas is correct.  Even in a controlled situation where a
> > cmpxchg operation
> > is used to implement pthread_spin_lock() in userspace, we found recently
> > that the lock
> > must be released with a  cmpxchg operation and not a simple write on SMP
> > systems.
> > There is a race in the cache operations or instruction ordering that's not
> > present with
> > the ldcw instruction.
> 
> Oh, I'm not arguing that. He's quite right that its broken, but this
> form of atomic ops is also quite insane and unusual. Most sane machines
> don't have this problem.
> 
> My main concern is how are we going to avoid breaking parisc (and I
> think sparc32, which is similarly retarded) in the future; we should
> invest in machinery to find and detect these things.

I cannot see an easy way to fix this by making ACCESS_ONCE() arch-dependent.
But could the compiler help out by recognizing ACCESS_ONCE() and generating
the needed code for it on sparc and pa-risc?

							Thanx, Paul

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