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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:56:10 +0200 From: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com> To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com> CC: "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Chema Gonzalez <chema@...gle.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 0/2] split BPF out of core networking On 06/02/2014 09:02 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote: ... > Classic has all sorts of hard coded assumptions. The whole > concept of 'load from magic constant' to mean different things > is flawed. We all got used to it and now think that it's normal > for "ld_abs -4056" to mean "a ^= x" I think everyone knows that, no? Sure it doesn't fit into the concept, but I think at the time BPF extensions were introduced, it was probably seen as the best trade-off available to access useful skb fields while still trying to minimize exposure to uapi as much as possible. > This split is not trying to make classic easier to hack. > With eBPF underneath classic, it got a lot easier to add extensions > to classic, but we shouldn't be doing it. > Classic BPF is not generic and cannot become one. It's eBPF's job. > > The split is mainly helping to clearly see the boundary of eBPF core > vs its socket use case. It doesn't change or add any API. So what's the plan with everything in arch/*/net/, tools/net/ and in Documentation/networking/filter.txt, plus MAINTAINERS file, that the current patch doesn't address? We want changes to go via netdev@...r.kernel.org as they always did, since [ although other use cases pop up ] the main user, as I said, is simply still packet filtering in various networking subsystems, no? > This in-kernel API cleanup was done in commit 5fe821a9dee2 > You even acked it back then :) I agreed with that change, otherwise I wouldn't have acked it, of course. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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