linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 08/11] sched: get CPU's activity statistic

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Message-ID: <20140603172048.GF29593@e103034-lin>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2014 18:20:48 +0100
From:	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
	"mingo@...nel.org" <mingo@...nel.org>,
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	"efault@....de" <efault@....de>,
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	"daniel.lezcano@...aro.org" <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/11] sched: get CPU's activity statistic

On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 04:50:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:47:03PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > Since we may do periodic load-balance every 10 ms or so, we will perform
> > a number of load-balances where runnable_avg_sum will mostly be
> > reflecting the state of the world before a change (new task queued or
> > moved a task to a different cpu). If you had have two tasks continuously
> > on one cpu and your other cpu is idle, and you move one of the tasks to
> > the other cpu, runnable_avg_sum will remain unchanged, 47742, on the
> > first cpu while it starts from 0 on the other one. 10 ms later it will
> > have increased a bit, 32 ms later it will be 47742/2, and 345 ms later
> > it reaches 47742. In the mean time the cpu doesn't appear fully utilized
> > and we might decide to put more tasks on it because we don't know if
> > runnable_avg_sum represents a partially utilized cpu (for example a 50%
> > task) or if it will continue to rise and eventually get to 47742.
> 
> Ah, no, since we track per task, and update the per-cpu ones when we
> migrate tasks, the per-cpu values should be instantly updated.

No, not for this per-cpu tracking metric :) For cfs.runnable_load_avg
you are right, but this patch set is using rq->avg.runnable_avg_sum
which is different. See my other reply.

> If we were to increase per task storage, we might as well also track
> running_avg not only runnable_avg.

That could probably make sense. We had that in pjt's first proposal.
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