linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with selected owner key

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Date:	Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:01:54 -0400
From:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
To:	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com>
Cc:	Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@...sung.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...hat.com>,
	keyrings <keyrings@...ux-nfs.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with selected owner key

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 09:36:46PM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> On 12 June 2014 20:32, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:23:57PM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> >> On 12/06/14 19:03, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:48:17AM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> >> >> This patch provides kernel parameter to specify owner's key id which
> >> >> must be used for trust validate of keys. Keys signed with other keys
> >> >> are not trusted.
> >> >>
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@...sung.com>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am continuing to work on verifying kernel signature for kexec/kdump. I
> >> > am planning to take david howell's patches for pkcs7 signature
> >> > verification and verify bzImage signature.
> >> >
> >> > Part of that process will boil down to verifying a certificate in
> >> > pkcs7 x509 cert chain using a key in system_trusted_keyring.
> >> >
> >> > I think the OS vendor key which signs the kernel signing key propagates to
> >> > system_trusted_keyring. (shim has that and I am not sure how shim makes
> >> > it propogate all they way to system_trusted_keyring).
> >> >
> >> > So I was planning to use same functionality where I look for any key
> >> > which can verify the signing cert of kernel. As OS vendor key will be
> >> > in system_trusted_keyring, it should work.
> >> >
> >> > Now with this change where you will trust only one selected owner key.
> >> > That means you will not even trust the OS vendor key which signs kernel
> >> > signing key. I think this will stop working with  keys_ownerid=<....>
> >> >
> >> > As I am doing that work in parallel and I saw these patches, I thought
> >> > I will bring it up.
> >>
> >> Hi Vivek,
> >>
> >> All keys stays in the keyring. Usage of owner_keyid is limited to
> >> validate the trust of the loaded keys.
> >
> > Hi Dmitry,
> >
> > If owner_keyid scope is just limited to loading extra keys, then it
> > should be fine as I don't want to load extra keys. I just want to
> > verify already signed image whose key is supposed to be in
> > system_trusted_keyring.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you really see OS verndor key (Fedora) on the system keyring?
> >> shim is UEFI binary and can add it to the MOK database..
> >
> > I have been told that mechanism to propagate they key in shim which is
> > used to verify kernel signature is in place and that key should show
> > up in system_trusted_keyring. I have never verified it though. I will
> > check it out.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vivek
> 
> 
> Hi Vivek,
> 
> The easiest way to get OS Vendor ker/certificate is just embed it into
> the kernel along with
> ephemeral (or not) module signing key... They all appears on .system keyring...

I think it will be tricky as in current setup, signing happens on a different
server and build server does not have access to keys.

Thanks
Vivek
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