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Message-ID: <20140615131416.GI11371@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:14:16 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
	x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <paolo.bonzini@...il.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@...com>,
	Chegu Vinod <chegu_vinod@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 09/16] qspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a
 virtual guest

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 05:08:28PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> >Native performance is king, try your very utmost bestest to preserve
> >that, paravirt is a distant second and nobody sane should care about the
> >virt case at all.
> 
> The patch won't affect native performance unless the kernel is built with
> VIRT_UNFAIR_LOCKS selected. The same is also true when PARAVIRT_SPINLOCKS is
> selected. There is no way around that.

VIRT_UNFAIR_LOCKS is an impossible switch to have; a distro cannot make
the right choice.

> I do agree that I may over-engineer on this patch,

Simple things first, then add complexity.
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