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Message-Id: <201406172323.s5HNNveT018439@userz7022.oracle.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:23:44 -0400
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com>
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Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] qspinlock: Add pending bit
On Jun 17, 2014 6:25 PM, Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com> wrote:
>
> On 06/17/2014 05:10 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 05:07:29PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 04:51:57PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> >>> On 06/17/2014 04:36 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 02:47:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>>>> Because the qspinlock needs to touch a second cacheline; add a pending
> >>>>> bit and allow a single in-word spinner before we punt to the second
> >>>>> cacheline.
> >>>> Could you add this in the description please:
> >>>>
> >>>> And by second cacheline we mean the local 'node'. That is the:
> >>>> mcs_nodes[0] and mcs_nodes[idx]
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps it might be better then to split this in the header file
> >>>> as this is trying to not be a slowpath code - but rather - a
> >>>> pre-slow-path-lets-try-if-we can do another cmpxchg in case
> >>>> the unlocker has just unlocked itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> So something like:
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> >>>> index e8a7ae8..29cc9c7 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> >>>> @@ -75,11 +75,21 @@ extern void queue_spin_lock_slowpath(struct qspinlock *lock, u32 val);
> >>>> */
> >>>> static __always_inline void queue_spin_lock(struct qspinlock *lock)
> >>>> {
> >>>> - u32 val;
> >>>> + u32 val, new;
> >>>>
> >>>> val = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, 0, _Q_LOCKED_VAL);
> >>>> if (likely(val == 0))
> >>>> return;
> >>>> +
> >>>> + /* One more attempt - but if we fail mark it as pending. */
> >>>> + if (val == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) {
> >>>> + new = Q_LOCKED_VAL |_Q_PENDING_VAL;
> >>>> +
> >>>> + old = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, val, new);
> >>>> + if (old == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) /* YEEY! */
> >>>> + return;
> >>> No, it can leave like that. The unlock path will not clear the pending bit.
> >> Err, you are right. It needs to go back in the slowpath.
> > What I should have wrote is:
> >
> > if (old == 0) /* YEEY */
> > return;
>
> Unfortunately, that still doesn't work. If old is 0, it just meant the
> cmpxchg failed. It still haven't got the lock.
> > As that would the same thing as this patch does on the pending bit - that
> > is if we can on the second compare and exchange set the pending bit (and the
> > lock) and the lock has been released - we are good.
>
> That is not true. When the lock is freed, the pending bit holder will
> still have to clear the pending bit and set the lock bit as is done in
> the slowpath. We cannot skip the step here. The problem of moving the
> pending code here is that it includes a wait loop which we don't want to
> put in the fastpath.
> >
> > And it is a quick path.
> >
> >>> We are trying to make the fastpath as simple as possible as it may be
> >>> inlined. The complexity of the queue spinlock is in the slowpath.
> >> Sure, but then it shouldn't be called slowpath anymore as it is not
> >> slow. It is a combination of fast path (the potential chance of
> >> grabbing the lock and setting the pending lock) and the real slow
> >> path (the queuing). Perhaps it should be called 'queue_spinlock_complex' ?
> >>
> > I forgot to mention - that was the crux of my comments - just change
> > the slowpath to complex name at that point to better reflect what
> > it does.
>
> Actually in my v11 patch, I subdivided the slowpath into a slowpath for
> the pending code and slowerpath for actual queuing. Perhaps, we could
> use quickpath and slowpath instead. Anyway, it is a minor detail that we
> can discuss after the core code get merged.
>
> -Longman
Why not do it the right way the first time around?
That aside - these optimization - seem to make the code harder to read. And they do remind me of the scheduler code in 2.6.x which was based on heuristics - and eventually ripped out.
So are these optimizations based on turning off certain hardware features? Say hardware prefetching?
What I am getting at - can the hardware do this at some point (or perhaps already does on IvyBridge-EX?) - that is prefetch the per-cpu areas so they are always hot? And rendering this optimization not needed?
Thanks!
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