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Message-ID: <20140618212022.GV4669@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:20:22 -0700
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Dave Anderson <anderson@...hat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.cz>, Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:12:48PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > > > /* Complain about tasks blocking the grace period. */
> > > > @@ -1044,8 +1041,7 @@ static void print_cpu_stall(struct rcu_state *rsp)
> > > > pr_cont(" (t=%lu jiffies g=%ld c=%ld q=%lu)\n",
> > > > jiffies - rsp->gp_start,
> > > > (long)rsp->gpnum, (long)rsp->completed, totqlen);
> > > > - if (!trigger_all_cpu_backtrace())
> > > > - dump_stack();
> > > > + rcu_dump_cpu_stacks(rsp);
> > >
> > > This is prone to producing not really consistent stacktraces though,
> > > right? As the target task is still running at the time the stack is being
> > > walked, it might produce stacktraces that are potentially nonsensial.
> >
> > If a CPU is stuck, the stack trace down to where it is stuck is
> > likely to be static. But yes, there is some potential for confusion.
> > My (admittedly limited) rcutorture testing produced sensible stack traces,
> > but things might be a bit uglier in other situations.
>
> I agree that it might work nicely for RCU stall detector indeed. I was
> looking for solution that'd work nicely both for RCU and for sysrq-l
> (where we can't rely on processess being stuck in any way).
Agreed. And if some more generally useful approach appears, I will be
quite happy to adjust RCU to use it. In the meantime, I expect that
my patch will be helpful.
Thanx, Paul
> > > How about sending NMI to the target CPU, so that the task is actually
> > > stopped, but printing its stacktrace from the CPU that detected the stall
> > > while it's stopped?
> > >
> > > That way, there is no printk()-from-NMI, but also the stacktrace is
> > > guaranteed to be self-consistent.
> >
> > I believe that this was what Steven was suggesting, though by using
> > tracing.
>
> My understanding was that Steven is suggesting using trace_printk() from
> NMI.
>
> > Of course, if my current approach isn't up to the job, then something
> > like this general approach would look quite good.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jiri Kosina
> SUSE Labs
>
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