linux-kernel - Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH v2 2/3] drm/ttm: introduce dma cache sync helpers

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Message-ID: <CACP_E+KECMyusuZd6hpzthL-RpfUOJpWh0EABf1DGAeaXc00aA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:00:41 -0700
From:	Stéphane Marchesin <stephane.marchesin@...il.com>
To:	Lucas Stach <l.stach@...gutronix.de>
Cc:	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...onical.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@...il.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	"nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org" <nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@...hat.com>,
	"linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH v2 2/3] drm/ttm: introduce dma cache sync helpers

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Lucas Stach <l.stach@...gutronix.de> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 24.06.2014, 14:27 +0200 schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
>> op 24-06-14 14:23, Alexandre Courbot schreef:
>> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...dia.com> wrote:
>> >> On 06/24/2014 07:33 PM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> >>> On 06/24/2014 07:02 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 06:54:26PM +0900, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> >>>>> From: Lucas Stach <dev@...xeye.de>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On architectures for which access to GPU memory is non-coherent,
>> >>>>> caches need to be flushed and invalidated explicitly at the
>> >>>>> appropriate places. Introduce two small helpers to make things
>> >>>>> easy for TTM-based drivers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Have you run this with DMA API debugging enabled?  I suspect you haven't,
>> >>>> and I recommend that you do.
>> >>>
>> >>> # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dma-api/error_count
>> >>> 162621
>> >>>
>> >>> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
>> >>
>> >> *puts table back on its feet*
>> >>
>> >> So, yeah - TTM memory is not allocated using the DMA API, hence we cannot
>> >> use the DMA API to sync it. Thanks Russell for pointing it out.
>> >>
>> >> The only alternative I see here is to flush the CPU caches when syncing for
>> >> the device, and invalidate them for the other direction. Of course if the
>> >> device has caches on its side as well the opposite operation must also be
>> >> done for it. Guess the only way is to handle it all by ourselves here. :/
>> > ... and it really sucks. Basically if we cannot use the DMA API here
>> > we will lose the convenience of having a portable API that does just
>> > the right thing for the underlying platform. Without it we would have
>> > to duplicate arm_iommu_sync_single_for_cpu/device() and we would only
>> > have support for ARM.
>> >
>> > The usage of the DMA API that we are doing might be illegal, but in
>> > essence it does exactly what we need - at least for ARM. What are the
>> > alternatives?
>> Convert TTM to use the dma api? :-)
>
> Actually TTM already has a page alloc backend using the DMA API. It's
> just not used for the standard case right now.
>
> I would argue that we should just use this page allocator (which has the
> side effect of getting pages from CMA if available -> you are actually
> free to change the caching) and do away with the other allocator in the
> ARM case.

CMA comes with its own set of (severe) limitations though, in
particular it's not possible to map arbitrary CPU pages into the GPU
without incurring a copy, you add arbitrary memory limits etc. Overall
that's not really a good pick for the long term...

Stéphane
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