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Message-ID: <20140704134928.GA25714@arm.com>
Date:	Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:49:28 +0100
From:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
To:	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>
Cc:	Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Cho KyongHo <pullip.cho@...sung.com>,
	Grant Grundler <grundler@...omium.org>,
	Dave P Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@....com>,
	Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu@...dia.com>,
	Olav Haugan <ohaugan@...eaurora.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <pwalmsley@...dia.com>,
	Rhyland Klein <rklein@...dia.com>,
	Allen Martin <amartin@...dia.com>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 01/10] iommu: Add IOMMU device registry

On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 02:47:10PM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 01:05:30PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:49:41PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > Add an IOMMU device registry for drivers to register with and implement
> > > a method for users of the IOMMU API to attach to an IOMMU device. This
> > > allows to support deferred probing and gives the IOMMU API a convenient
> > > hook to perform early initialization of a device if necessary.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate on why exactly you need this? The IOMMU-API is
> > designed to hide any details from the user about the available IOMMUs in
> > the system and which IOMMU handles which device. This looks like it is
> > going in a completly different direction from that.
> 
> I need this primarily to properly serialize device probing order.
> Without it the IOMMU may be probed later than its clients, in which case
> the client drivers will assume that there is no IOMMU (iommu_present()
> for the parent bus fails).

I can also vouch for needing *a* solution to this problem. The ARM SMMU (and
I think others) rely on initcall ordering rather than the driver probing
model to ensure the IOMMU is probed before any of its masters.

Will
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