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Message-ID: <20140716230345.GA3220@kroah.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:03:45 -0700
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
Cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Allen Yu <alleny@...dia.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add "rpm_not_supported" flag

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:40:23AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:27:06 AM Alan Stern wrote:
> > Here's a brief summary of the story behind this patch...
> > 
> > At one point, I suggested to Dan that instead of doing something
> > special for these devices, we could simply have the runtime_suspend()
> > routine always return -EBUSY.  He didn't like that idea because then
> > the user would see the device was never powering down but would have no
> > idea why.  The rpm_not_supported flag provides this information to the
> > user by causing the power/runtime_status attribute to say "not
> > supported".  (Although to be entirely fair, we could just put a message
> > in the kernel log during probe if the hardware doesn't support runtime
> > suspend.)
> > 
> > Instead, Dan introduced a messy PM QoS mechanism in commit
> > e3d105055525.  I didn't like that approach, but Greg merged it before I
> > objected.
> 
> That really looks a bit like a hack to me to be honest.
> 
> Greg, what's your plan toward this?

If I need to revert something that you all find was wrong, I'll be glad
to do so, sorry for merging something too early.

thanks,

greg k-h
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