linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/4] random,x86,kvm: Add and use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG

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Message-ID: <CALCETrWYe9ku4MRwbfNnQckOZGvh-HRs9s3HjApmhYPaDch46w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Jul 2014 08:56:10 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Cc:	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...nel.org>, kvm list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] random,x86,kvm: Add and use MSR_KVM_GET_RNG_SEED

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com> wrote:
> Il 16/07/2014 16:07, Andy Lutomirski ha scritto:
>
>> This patch has nothing whatsoever to do with how much I trust the CPU
>> vs the hypervisor.  It's for the enormous installed base of machines
>> without RDRAND.
>
>
> Ok.  I think an MSR is fine, though I don't think it's useful for the guest
> to use it if it already has RDRAND and/or RDSEED.
>
>
>> > In any case, is there a matching QEMU patch somewhere?
>>
>> What QEMU change is needed?  I admit I'm a bit vague on how QEMU and
>> KVM cooperate here, but there's no state to save and restore.  I guess
>> that QEMU wants the ability to turn this on and off for migration.
>> How does that work?  I couldn't spot the KVM code that allows this
>> type of control.
>
>
> It is QEMU who decides the CPUID bits that are visible to the guest.  By
> default it blocks bits that it doesn't know about.  You would need to add
> the bit in the kvm_default_features and kvm_feature_name arrays.
>
> For migration, we have "versioned" machine types, for example pc-2.1.
> Once the versioned machine type exists, blocking the feature is a one-liner
> like
>
>     x86_cpu_compat_disable_kvm_features(FEAT_KVM, KVM_FEATURE_NAME);
>
> Unfortunately, QEMU is in hard freeze, so you'd likely be the one creating
> pc-2.2.  This is a boilerplate but relatively complicated patch.  But let's
> cross that bridge when we'll reach it.  For now, you can simply add the bit
> to the two arrays above.
>

Done.

NB: Patch 4 of this series is bad due to an asm constraint issue that
I haven't figured out yet.  I'll send a replacement once I get it
working.  *sigh* the x86 kernel loading code is a bit of a compilation
mess.

> Paolo



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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