linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Mon, 21 Jul 2014 11:33:31 -0600
From:	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>, tglx@...utronix.de,
	mingo@...hat.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, arnd@...db.de,
	plagnioj@...osoft.com, tomi.valkeinen@...com, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stefan.bader@...onical.com,
	luto@...capital.net, airlied@...il.com, bp@...en8.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86

On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 10:32 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 07/21/2014 10:16 AM, Toshi Kani wrote:
 :
> >> I would also like a systematic way to deal with the fact
> >> that Xen (sigh) is stuck with a separate mapping system.
> >>
> >> I guess Linux could adopt the Xen mappings if that makes it easier, as
> >> long as that doesn't have a negative impact on native hardware -- we can
> >> possibly deal with some older chips not being optimal.  
> > 
> > I see.  I agree that supporting the PAT bit is the right direction, but
> > I do not know how much effort we need.  I will study on this.
> > 
> >> However, my thinking has been to have a "reverse PAT" table in memory of memory
> >> types to encodings, both for regular and large pages.
> > 
> > I am not clear about your idea of the "reverse PAT" table.  Would you
> > care to elaborate?  How is it different from using pte_val() being a
> > paravirt function on Xen?
> 
> First of all, paravirt functions are the root of all evil, and we want
> to reduce and eliminate them to the utmost level possible.  But yes, we
> could plumb that up that way if we really need to.
> 
> What I'm thinking of is a table which can deal with both the moving PTE
> bit, Xen, and the scattered encodings by having a small table from types
> to encodings, and not use the encodings directly until fairly late it
> the pipe.  I suspect, but I'm not sure, that we would also need the
> inverse operation.

Thanks for the explanation!  I will think about it as well.
-Toshi

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/