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Message-ID: <20140731151630.GA7842@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:16:32 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
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	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] x86,entry: Only call user_exit if TIF_NOHZ

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:23:34AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:32:32PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >> On 07/28, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >
> >> > @@ -1449,7 +1449,12 @@ long syscall_trace_enter(struct pt_regs *regs)
> >> >  {
> >> >     long ret = 0;
> >> >
> >> > -   user_exit();
> >> > +   /*
> >> > +    * If TIF_NOHZ is set, we are required to call user_exit() before
> >> > +    * doing anything that could touch RCU.
> >> > +    */
> >> > +   if (test_thread_flag(TIF_NOHZ))
> >> > +           user_exit();
> >>
> >> Personally I still think this change just adds more confusion, but I leave
> >> this to you and Frederic.
> >>
> >> It is not that "If TIF_NOHZ is set, we are required to call user_exit()", we
> >> need to call user_exit() just because we enter the kernel. TIF_NOHZ is just
> >> the implementation detail which triggers this slow path.
> >>
> >> At least it should be correct, unless I am confused even more than I think.
> >
> > Agreed, Perhaps the confusion is on the syscall_trace_enter() name which suggests
> > this is only about tracing? syscall_slowpath_enter() could be an alternative.
> > But that's still tracing in a general sense so...
> 
> At the end of the day, the syscall slowpath code calls a bunch of
> functions depending on what TIF_XYZ flags are set.  As long as it's
> structured like "if (TIF_A) do_a(); if (TIF_B) do_b();" or something
> like that, it's comprehensible.  But once random functions with no
> explicit flag checks or comments start showing up, it gets confusing.

Yeah that's a point. I don't mind much the TIF_NOHZ test if you like.

> 
> If it's indeed all-or-nothing, I could remove the check and add a
> comment.  But please keep in mind that, currently, the slow path is
> *slow*, and my patches only improve the entry case.  So enabling
> context tracking on every task will hurt.

That's what we do anyway. I haven't found a safe way to enabled context tracking
without tracking all CPUs.

> 
> --Andy
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