linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock

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Message-ID: <53ED080F.9010305@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:03:43 -0400
From:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@...fujitsu.com>,
	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@...gle.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Sanjay Rao <srao@...hat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with
 seqlock

On 08/14/2014 02:15 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/14, Rik van Riel wrote:
>>
>> On 08/14/2014 12:12 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>
>>> Or you can expand the scope of write_seqlock/write_sequnlock, so that
>>> __unhash_process in called from inside the critical section. This looks
>>> simpler at first glance.
>>
>> The problem with that is that wait_task_zombie() calls
>> thread_group_cputime_adjusted() in that if() branch, and
>> that code ends up taking the seqlock for read...
> 
> Not sure I understand... This modifies parent->signal->c* counters,
> and obviously the exiting thread is not the member of parent's thread
> group, so thread_group_cputime_adjusted(parent) can never account the
> exiting child twice simply because it won't see it?

You are right, the tree of processes only goes one way,
so there should be no deadlock in taking psig->stats_lock
and having thread_group_cputime_adjusted take sig->stats_lock
for read within that section.

However, it might need some lockdep annotation to keep
lockdep from thinking we might the same lock recursively :)

>> However, in __exit_signal that approach should work.
> 
> Yes,
> 
>>> Hmm, wait, it seems there is yet another problem ;) Afaics, you also
>>> need to modify __exit_signal() so that ->sum_sched_runtime/etc are
>>> accounted unconditionally, even if the group leader exits.
>>>
>>> Probably this is not a big problem, and sys_times() or clock_gettime()
>>> do not care at all because they use current.
>>>
>>> But without this change thread_group_cputime(reaped_zombie) won't look
>>> at this task_struct at all, this can lead to non-monotonic result if
>>> it was previously called when this task was alive (non-reaped).
>>
>> You mean this whole block needs to run regardless of whether
>> the group is dead?
>>
>>                 task_cputime(tsk, &utime, &stime);
>>                 write_seqlock(&sig->stats_lock);
>>                 sig->utime += utime;
>>                 sig->stime += stime;
>>                 sig->gtime += task_gtime(tsk);
>>                 sig->min_flt += tsk->min_flt;
>>                 sig->maj_flt += tsk->maj_flt;
>>                 sig->nvcsw += tsk->nvcsw;
>>                 sig->nivcsw += tsk->nivcsw;
>>                 sig->inblock += task_io_get_inblock(tsk);
>>                 sig->oublock += task_io_get_oublock(tsk);
>>                 task_io_accounting_add(&sig->ioac, &tsk->ioac);
>>                 sig->sum_sched_runtime += tsk->se.sum_exec_runtime;
> 
> Yes.

Let me give that a try and see what happens :)

>> How does that square with wait_task_zombie reaping the
>> statistics of the whole group with thread_group_cputime_adjusted()
>> when the group leader is exiting?
> 
> Again, not sure I understand... thread_group_cputime_adjusted() in
> wait_task_zombie() is fine in any case. Nobody but us can reap this
> zombie.
> 
> It seems that we misunderstood each other, let me try again. Just to
> simplify, suppose we have, say,
> 
> 	sys_times_by_pid(pid, ...)
> 	{
> 		rcu_read_lock();
> 		task = find_task_by_vpid(pid);
> 		if (task)
> 			get_task_struct(task);
> 		rcu_read_unlock();
> 
> 		if (!task)
> 			return -ESRCH;
> 
> 		thread_group_cputime(task, ...);
> 		copy_to_user();
> 		return 0;
> 	}
> 
> Note that this task can exit right after rcu_read_unlock(), and it can
> be also reaped (by its parent or by itself) and removed from the thread
> list. In this case for_each_thread() will see no threads, and thus it
> will only read task->signal->*time.
> 
> This means that sys_times_by_pid() can simply return the wrong result
> instead of failure. Say, It can even return "all zeros" if this task was
> single-threaded.

Ahh, that makes sense.

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