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Date:	Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:46:49 -0600
From:	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>
To:	Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@...dia.com>
CC:	Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@...dia.com>,
	Laxman Dewangan <ldewangan@...dia.com>,
	"wsa@...-dreams.de" <wsa@...-dreams.de>,
	"thierry.reding@...il.com" <thierry.reding@...il.com>,
	"linux-i2c@...r.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i2c: i2c-tegra: Move clk_prepare/clk_set_rate to probe

On 08/15/2014 03:34 PM, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 09:45:46PM +0200, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:07:01PM +0200, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> However, the new code sets the clock rate after the clock is prepared. I
>>>>> think the rate should be set first, then the clock prepared. While this
>>>>> likely doesn't apply to the Tegra clock controller, prepare() is allowed
>>>>> to enable the clock if enable() can't be implemented in an atomic
>>>>> fashion (in which case enable/disable would be no-ops), and we should
>>>>> make sure that the driver correctly configures the clock before
>>>>> potentially enabling it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if a similar change to our SPI drivers is possible; after
>>>>> all, the SPI transfer rate can vary per message, so if clk_set_rate()
>>>>> acquires a lock, it seems there's no way to avoid the issue there.
>>>>
>>>> Even for i2c this could be the case I think if you use the highspeed (3.4Mhz)
>>>> mode? From what I remember, a highspeed i2c transaction starts with a lower
>>>> speed preamble to make sure non highspeed slaves don't get confused? Which
>>>> means you could change the bus speed depending on the slave you're addressing.
>>>
>>> Since there's no separate chip-select for I2C, I believe all I2C devices
>>> need to be able to understand the entire transaction, so the I2C bus
>>> speed is fixed.
>>>
>>
>> Does it? I would assume the slave only needs to check if the address matches
>> its own address after a START condition and if not can just wait until the
>> STOP condition appears on the bus?
>>
>
> http://www.nxp.com/documents/user_manual/UM10204.pdf says you can mix them by
> using an interconnect bridge between the highspeed and the non-highspeed
> capable slaves. The bridge uses the special preamble to disconnect the non-
> highspeed part of the bus when a highspeed transaction is ongoing. It's afaics
> transparent to the master.

I expect that works by echoing the slow-speed pre-amble to the 
slow-speed bus segment, then emitting a stop and turning off the echo. 
For actual slow-speed transactions, the whole thing would be echo'd. 
That way the slow-speed devices don't ever see any high-speed pulses.

That all said, that does indeed imply that a master supporting the 
high-speed transactions would need to emit a varying-speed signal. My 
assumption would be that this happens inside the I2C HW, rather than 
under SW control though, since the transition would need to happen 
mid-protocol. Still, perhaps the selection between low-speed and 
high-speed-with-a-slow-preamble might need SW clock programming 
depending on the HW though... Who knows.

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