linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v10 03/19] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler

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Message-ID: <53FF50B1.20009@linaro.org>
Date:	Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:54:25 +0100
From:	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@...aro.org>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
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	kgdb-bugreport@...ts.sourceforge.net, patches@...aro.org,
	linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@...aro.org>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@...ethink.co.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@...il.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 03/19] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler

On 28/08/14 16:01, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 07:12:07PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
>> On 19/08/14 18:37, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 05:45:53PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
>>>> +int register_fiq_nmi_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	return atomic_notifier_chain_register(&fiq_nmi_chain, nb);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +asmlinkage void __exception_irq_entry fiq_nmi_handler(struct pt_regs *regs)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct pt_regs *old_regs = set_irq_regs(regs);
>>>> +
>>>> +	nmi_enter();
>>>> +	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&fiq_nmi_chain, (unsigned long)regs, NULL);
>>>> +	nmi_exit();
>>>> +	set_irq_regs(old_regs);
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> Really not happy with this.  What happens if a FIQ occurs while we're
>>> inside register_fiq_nmi_notifier() - more specifically inside
>>> atomic_notifier_chain_register() ?
>>
>> Should depend on which side of the rcu update we're on.
> 
> I just asked Paul McKenney, our RCU expert... essentially, yes, RCU
> stuff itself is safe in this context.  However, RCU stuff can call into
> lockdep if lockdep is configured, and there are questions over lockdep.

Thanks for following this up.

I originally formed the opinion RCU was safe from FIQ because it is also
used to manage the NMI notification handlers for x86
(register_nmi_handler) and I understood the runtime constraints on FIQ
to be very similar.

Note that x86 manages the notifiers itself so it uses
list_for_each_entry_rcu() rather atomic_notifier_call_chain() but
nevertheless I think this boils down to the same thing w.r.t. safety
concerns.


> There's some things which can be done to reduce the lockdep exposure
> to it, such as ensuring that rcu_read_lock() is first called outside
> of FIQ context.

lockdep is automatically disabled by calling nmi_enter() so all the
lockdep calls should end up following the early exit path based on
current->lockdep_recursion.


> There's concerns with whether either printk() in check_flags() could
> be reached too (flags there should always indicate that IRQs were
> disabled, so that reduces down to a question about just the first
> printk() there.)
> 
> There's also the very_verbose() stuff for RCU lockdep classes which
> Paul says must not be enabled.
> 
> Lastly, Paul isn't a lockdep expert, but he sees nothing that prevents
> lockdep doing the deadlock checking as a result of the above call.
>
> So... this coupled with my feeling that notifiers make it too easy for
> unreviewed code to be hooked into this path, I'm fairly sure that we
> don't want to be calling atomic notifier chains from FIQ context.



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