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Message-ID: <540058CB.2030704@parallels.com>
Date:	Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:41:15 +0400
From:	Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@...allels.com>
To:	Zach Brown <zab@...bo.net>
CC:	Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@...ck.org>,
	"axboe@...nel.dk" <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <dave.kleikamp@...cle.com>,
	Kent Overstreet <kmo@...erainc.com>, open list:
	AIO <linux-aio@...ck.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>, ;
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/9] block: loop: convert to blk-mq

On 8/28/14, Zach Brown<zab@...bo.net>  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:19:36PM +0400, Maxim Patlasov wrote:
>> On 08/27/2014 08:29 PM, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 08:08:59PM +0400, Maxim Patlasov wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> 1) /dev/loop0 of 3.17.0-rc1 with Ming's patches applied -- 11K iops
>>>> 2) the same as above, but call loop_queue_work() directly from
>>>> loop_queue_rq() -- 270K iops
>>>> 3) /dev/nullb0 of 3.17.0-rc1 -- 380K iops
>>>>
>>>> Taking into account so big difference (11K vs. 270K), would it be
>>>> worthy
>>>> to implement pure non-blocking version of aio_kernel_submit() returning
>>>> error if blocking needed? Then loop driver (or any other in-kernel
>>>> user)
>>>> might firstly try that non-blocking submit as fast-path, and, only if
>>>> it's failed, fall back to queueing.
>>> What filesystem is the backing file for loop0 on?  O_DIRECT access as
>>> Ming's patches use should be non-blocking, and if not, that's something
>>> to fix.
>> I used loop0 directly on top of null_blk driver (because my goal was to
>> measure the overhead of processing requests in a separate thread).
> The relative overhead while doing nothing else.  While zooming way down
> in to micro benchmarks is fun and all, testing on an fs on brd might be
> more representitive and so more compelling.

The measurements on an fs on brd are even more outrageous (the same fio 
script I posted a few messages above):

1) Baseline. no loopback device involved.

fio on /dev/ram0:                           467K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/ram0:                 378K iops

2) Loopback device from 3.17.0-rc1 with Ming's patches (v1) applied:

fio on /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:            10K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:   9K iops

3) the same as above, but avoid extra context switch (call 
loop_queue_work() directly from loop_queue_rq()):

fio on /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0:           267K iops
fio on ext4 over /dev/loop0 over /dev/ram0: 223K iops

The problem is not about huge relative overhead while doing nothing 
else. It's rather about introducing extra latency (~100 microseconds on 
commodity h/w I used) which might be noticeable on modern SSDs (and h/w 
RAIDs with caching).

Thanks,
Maxim
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