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Message-ID: <540DF078.3030601@zytor.com>
Date:	Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:07:52 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
CC:	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	"Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@...esourcery.com>
Subject: Re: (Resend) 2038 Kernel Summit Discussion Fodder

On 09/08/2014 10:55 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
>> Today, there's good chance there's linux somewhere in your car. (Dashboard,
>> entertainment system). People like to keep cars from 1910 working, and I suspect
>> that is not going to change.
>>
>> So yes, in 2038 people will be running 32bit linux.
>>
>> Whether there will be people putting 32bit linux into new devices is a question,
>> but I suspect answer is still yes.
> 
> I'm currently trying to add 64bit longlong support to an initial PCC 8086
> compiler port so I can fix that for some 16bit projects 8-)
> 
> My 8bit machines are mostly 2038 safe already.
> 

Back in 1985 I decided to Y2K-test my ABC800 8-bit computer.  It passed
(they had implemented a windowed year solution which breaks in 2070 or
2080, as I recall.)

	-hpa


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