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Date:	Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:03:21 +0100
From:	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To:	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>
Cc:	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@....com>,
	Christopher Covington <cov@...eaurora.org>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@....com>,
	"olof@...om.net" <olof@...om.net>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@...omium.org>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@....com>,
	Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@....com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@....com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
	Nathan Lynch <Nathan_Lynch@...tor.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"robh+dt@...nel.org" <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@....com>,
	"ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	"galak@...eaurora.org" <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to
 specify the physical timer

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:33:03PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 09/15/14 04:10, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 07:59:29PM +0100, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> >> On 09/12/14 05:14, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >>> We surely can handle the UNDEF and do something there. We just can't do
> >>> it the way Doug described it above.
> >> I suggested doing that for something else a while ago and Will and Dave
> >> we're not thrilled[1]. The suggestion back then was to use DT to
> >> indicate what mode the kernel is running in.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-June/105321.html
> > I think the context was slightly different. As I re-read the thread, it
> > seems that the discussion was around whether to use some SMC interface
> > or not based on whether the kernel is running secure or non-secure. The
> > argument made by Will was to actually specify the type of the firmware
> > SMC interface in the DT and use it in the kernel (and probably assume
> > the kernel is running in secure mode if no smc interface is specified in
> > the DT; you could have both though, running in secure mode and also
> > having firmware).
> >
> > In this arch timer case, we need to work around a firmware bug (or
> > feature as 32-bit ARM kernels never required CNTVOFF initialisation by
> > firmware, no matter how small such firmware is). We don't expect a
> > specific SMC call to initialise CNTVOFF, so we can't describe it in the
> > DT.
> 
> Agreed, we can't described SMC calls that don't exist. From my
> perspective it's just another part of the cpu boot sequence that needs
> to be handled in the kernel, so describing the requirement via the
> cpu-boot method seems appropriate. It seems like we're making it harder
> than it should be by handling the undef when we could have slightly
> different SMP boot code (and suspend/resume code) depending on the boot
> method property.

For 32-bit ARM SoCs, I think you can describe this via some specific
enable-method property. What I don't like though is the multitude of
enable methods (trying to reduce them on arm64) and the fact that
registers like CNTVOFF are rather architecture than SoC specific.

-- 
Catalin
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