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Date:	Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:07:09 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Cc:	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@...ppelsdorf.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: git rid of [sched_delayed] message for
 printk_deferred

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:35:10 +0200
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz> wrote:

> On Tue 16-09-14 11:13:31, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:42:52 +0200
> > Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@...ppelsdorf.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > commit 458df9fd hardcodes printk_deferred() to KERN_WARNING and inserts
> > > the string "[sched_delayed] " before the actual message.
> > > However it doesn't take into account the KERN_* prefix of the message,
> > > that now ends up in the middle of the output:
> > > 
> > >  [sched_delayed] ^a4CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 20115 nsec
> > > 
> > > Fix this by just getting rid of the "[sched_delayed] " scnprintf().
> > 
> > I prefer the "[sched_delayed]" output. It lets us know that the output
> > did not come out immediately, which is important sometimes during
> > debugging. Otherwise it can confuse people, as printk is suppose to be
> > a blocking write.
>   This is a common misconception about printk. It isn't a blocking write
> for ten years or more. If there happens to be someone else printing to
> console, the difference between printk() and printk_deferred() is
> marginal - it used to be bigger when scheduler had its own buffer but these
> days message is inserted in the kernel ring buffer immediately. That's why
> I don't think the prefix is useful anymore.

For the most part it's a blocking write. Yeah, if another CPU is
writing, it wont be a blocking write, but it usually is, I know I
depend on it (when I'm debugging, I usually don't have contention
between CPUs). The important part is that they are done in order. A
delayed print, wont be in order with other printks. That is still a
crucial difference.


> 
> > Can we instead fix the bug instead of nuking the output? That is, move
> > the KERN_* prefix before the "[sched_delayed]" message? I don't think
> > it would be that hard. If you want, I'll write that patch (probably
> > take me 20 minutes at most), but I'm just coming back from medical
> > leave so I prefer not to.
>   Glad to see you back! I'm not opposed to moving the prefix but it doesn't
> seem worth the effort...

I don't know. Since all the printk_deferred() are KERN_WARNING anyway,
we can at least clean them up, and remove the extra loglevel.

-- Steve
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