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Date:	Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:26:25 +0900
From:	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
To:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
Cc:	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@....com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, stable@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf tools: Fix build-id matching on vmlinux

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:11:16 -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 03:14:51PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 12:44:02 -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>> > It seems we need a way to state that an entry in the build-id table is
>> > for the kernel, without looking at its file name.
>  
>> Maybe we can add a new build_id2_event (like mmap2) that has a new field
>> to record that info.
>
> Humm, take a look at machine__write_buildid_table() -> write_buildid(),
> we already seem to set build_id_event.header.misc suitably, no?

AFAIK the PERF_RECORD_MISC_KERNEL is set for both of kernel image and
modules so we cannot distinguish a kernel from others (without checking
names).

>
>> > That or to put the build-id into the synthesized kernel mmap
>> > event. Which is better, because:
>
>> > That leads to another problem that needs to get solved eventually: We
>> > need to have the build-id into PERF_RECORD_MMAP, because we're now using
>> > just the mmap filename as the key, not the contents, and for long
>> > running sessions, DSOs can get updated, etc.
>  
>> But it'd require a realtime processing of events at record time.
>
> Been there, done that, backtracked, yes, we can't do that at 'record
> time', else we would be adding way too much noise to the recording
> phase.
>
> The idea is for the _kernel_ to do that, would take sizeof(buildid)
> (about 20 bytes) on the per-DSO structure in the kernel.
>
> When ELF loading it, stashing the contents of an ELF session
> (.note.gnu.build-id) somewhere accessible at PERF_RECORD_MMAP3
> generation time.
>
> Doing that at the time we load the DSO from disk should add negligible
> overhead.
>
> With that we would not need to go over all the perf.data stream to
> generate the build-id table after all record sessions, they would be at
> the struct map already.

Yes, it'll solve the problem and simplifies the perf record.  However I
suspect it's not acceptable to keep such info in the kernel only for the
sake of perf.


>
> We could then have multiple entries in the build-id table for the same
> pathname, with different build ids, that is something we don't support
> now and that provides bogus results when it happens.

Maybe we can save and compare timestamp of build-id/map event and sample
event.  I'm experimenting to separate meta events (comm, mmap, ...) from
sample events with a similar idea... :)

Thanks,
Namhyung
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