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Message-ID: <20140922164237.GA30229@infradead.org>
Date:	Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:42:37 -0700
From:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:	Milosz Tanski <milosz@...in.com>
Cc:	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>,
	"Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" <Elliott@...com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-aio@...ck.org" <linux-aio@...ck.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@...net.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:32:02PM -0400, Milosz Tanski wrote:
> I spent some time thinking about multi-position scatter/gather in
> context of this over the weekend. The non-blocking case seams easy,
> the implementation I purposed needs an extra loop. Where this gets
> hairy is making the non-trivial blocking case work well (as in have
> concurrent requests for each of the ranges) in the filesystem code. If
> that's the road we're going to go down I have a gut feeling we're
> going to get stuck in the same spot(s) as the other non-blocking
> buffered r/w attempts from the past.

The other thing sis that we have a basically ready, easy to use
implementation of flagged I/O (my name for the new syscalls), while
S/G I/O will take forever to discuss and is the natual vehicle for
other extensions like T10 DIX.

I'd like to suggest you consolidate your syscalls down from 4 to 2
as suggestes by overloading the negative offset argument, giving
us two more syscalls slows for S/G once it's ready.  Note that
a sync S/G syscalls should of course also support these flags, although
I suspect the primary use cases for S/G I/O would be through the aio
machinery.
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