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Message-ID: <20140930002948.GP7996@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:29:48 +0100
From:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Subject: Re: Removing shared subtrees?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 05:14:55PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> I understand that:
> 
> # mount --make-rshared /
> # mount --rbind / /mnt
> # umount - /mnt/dev
> 
> should unmount /dev.  That's the whole point.  But why does unmounting
> */mnt* propagate like that?  It doesn't unmount /.  To me, this makes
> about as much sense as having 'umount -l /mnt/dev' unmount /dev/pts
> but *not* /dev would make.

Aha.  And what, pray tell, does umount -l /mnt do to mounts deeper in
the tree?  Forget about shared, etc. - what, in your opinion, does umount -l
mean wrt the stuff mounted on /mnt?  /mnt/dev, for example...

> > What for?
> 
> Simplicity and comprehensibility.

Such an elegant way to say "I can't be arsed to read"...  For what it's
worth: MNT_DETACH is *not* "detach the subtree as whole, busy or not".
It's "unmount all mounts within the subtree, busy or not".  At which point
the self-LART you keep describing becomes quite easy to comprehend, doesn't
it?
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