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Message-ID: <20140930160549.GA6838@mail.hallyn.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:05:49 +0200
From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
To: "Chen, Hanxiao" <chenhanxiao@...fujitsu.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
"containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org"
<containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@...hat.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
"Pavel Emelyanov (xemul@...allels.com)" <xemul@...allels.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according
to ns
Quoting Chen, Hanxiao (chenhanxiao@...fujitsu.com):
> Hi,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Serge E. Hallyn [mailto:serge@...lyn.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 2/2] /proc/PID/status: show all sets of pid according to
> > ns
> [snip]
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds four fields: NStgid, NSpid, NSpgid and NSsid:
> > > > a) In init_pid_ns, nothing changed;
> > > >
> > > > b) In one pidns, will tell the pid inside containers:
> > > > NStgid: 21776 5 1
> > > > NSpid: 21776 5 1
> > > > NSpgid: 21776 5 1
> > > > NSsid: 21729 1 0
> > > > ** Process id is 21776 in level 0, 5 in level 1, 1 in level 2.
> > > >
> > > > c) If pidns is nested, it depends on which pidns are you in.
> > > > NStgid: 5 1
> > > > NSpid: 5 1
> > > > NSpgid: 5 1
> > > > NSsid: 1 0
> > > > ** Views from level 1
> > > >
> > >
> > > This patch is simple, useful and safe.
> > > But currently there is not any feedbacks.
> > >
> > > Any comments or ideas?
> >
> > Thanks, Chen. The code looks fine. My concern is that you are
> > exposing information which cannot be checkpointed and restarted.
> > In particular, if I'm inside a nested container, so I'm in pidns
> > level 3, then my own NSpid info, when I read it, will show the
> > pids at parent namespaces. If I'm restarted at the third pidns
> > level, only the one pid can be restored.
>
> If you're in level 3, read your own proc, only level 3's NSpid info
> will be shown. No parent namesapces info could be seen.
D'oh! Sorry, I see, you're starting at ns->level. And ns is the ns
of the proc mount, not the caller. that looks good.
So
Acked-by: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>
> Only if not providing a procfs mount point for the new container,
> and without a proper pivot_root,
> we could see some NSpid info of parent ns.
>
> If each new container got their own procfs mount point,
> only its and its child's NSpid info could be seen.
>
> >
> > Now it may be fair to say "this is proc, and proc and sys show
> > host info which is not containerized and cannot be checkpointed
> > and restarted, deal with it." But I'm not sure.
> >
> > There are two ways you could deal with this. One would be to
> > show the nspids only to the level of the reader of the file - but
> > I don't think you need to do that. I think you're better off
> > simply showing the pids up to the level of the struct pid for
> > the mounter of the procfs. So if I'm inside container c2 which
> > is inside container c1, my own /proc will only show pids which
> > are valid in c2 (and any child namespaces), while the /proc
> > mounted in c1 will show pids valid in c1 and c2 (and any children),
> > but not those in the init_pid_ns. It's then just up to the
> > container administrators to make sure that c2 cannot see c1's
> > /proc to confuse itself and confuddle checkpoint-restart
>
> IIUC, this patch already deal with this scenario:
>
> + for (g = ns->level; g <= pid->level; g++)
> + seq_printf(m, "\t%d ",
> + task_tgid_nr_ns(p, pid->numbers[g].ns));
>
> With this patch, it did like
> a) in init_pid_ns, check /proc/21776/status
> NStgid: 21776 5 1
>
> b) in c1, check /proc/5/status:
> NStgid: 5 1
>
> c) in c2, check /proc/1/status:
> NStgid: 1
>
> Thanks,
> - Chen
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