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Message-ID: <20141006210118.GG18303@htj.dyndns.org>
Date:	Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:01:18 -0400
From:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>
Cc:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...not-panic.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/7] driver-core: add preferred async probe option for
 built-in and modules

Hello,

On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 10:36:27PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > Do we intend to keep this param permanently?  Isn't this more of a
> > temp tool to be used during development?  If so, maybe we should make
> > that clear with __DEVEL__ too?
> 
> As its designed right now no, its not a temp tool, its there to
> require compatibility with old userspace. For modules we can require
> the module parameter but for built-in we need something else and this
> is what came to mind. It is also what would allow the prefer_async_probe
> flag too as otherwise we won't know if userspace is prepared.

I don't get it.  For in-kernel stuff, we already have a clear
synchronization point where we already synchronize all async calls.
Shouldn't we be flushing these async probes there too?  insmod'ing is
userland visible but there's no reason this has to be for the built-in
drivers.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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