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Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:37:03 +0200
From:	Frans Klaver <fransklaver@...il.com>
To:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:	"olof@...om.net" <olof@...om.net>,
	"anton.vorontsov@...aro.org" <anton.vorontsov@...aro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@...il.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] sbs-battery: add forced instantiation from device tree

Olof, Anton,

Care to pitch in?

Thanks,
Frans

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Frans Klaver <fransklaver@...il.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 07:59:34PM +0100, Frans Klaver wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 04:34:32PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 04:14:48PM +0100, Frans Klaver wrote:
>>> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:38:49PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:22:22PM +0100, Frans Klaver wrote:
>>> > > > You mention that there's a GPIO that can be used to detect the battery
>>> > > > presence. Why can't the driver always probe and then on check for the
>>> > > > presence of the battery dynamically using that GPIO? That should cover
>>> > > > both cases.
>>> > >
>>> > > I would say that this was the case before [1] was done. The GPIO is
>>> > > optional and if not configured, the presence or absence of the battery
>>> > > is detected by checking a status register much like probe() currently
>>> > > does. It seems all cases were covered before that patch. If you worry
>>> > > about speed, you should use the GPIO. I wonder if we might be able to
>>> > > revert [1] without doing much harm.
>>> >
>>> > But reverting that would re-introduce the lag on some systems, no? Given
>>> > the wording of the original commit I would guess that the GPIO wasn't
>>> > available. Perhaps Olof or Anton can enlighten us?
>>>
>>> It probably would yes. The battery_detect gpio was last touched in 2011, the
>>> probe check was added somewhere in 2012.
>>
>> We can't revert it unless we know doing so won't reintroduce the
>> problem. From the above it sounds like we can't revert it.
>>
>>> We could keep it as a compile option.
>>
>> Perhaps.
>>
>>> > In the cases where a GPIO is available, I think we should be able to be
>>> > less pessimistic. Is a GPIO available in your case?
>>>
>>> We don't have the battery_detect pin available. Incidentally, a bit of
>>> lag reading out the battery is not a problem for us.
>>
>> So now we're back at sqaure one. The hardware is likely identical in the
>> your case and the care-about-lag case. Whether or not you care about lag
>> is a property of the user rather than the HW, so I don't think that
>> belongs in the dt.
>>
>> It would be interesting to know what the lag was adversely affecting.
>> Perhaps there's another way around this.
>
> Exactly. I can imagine this really being a problem if the i2c bus
> already has a lot of priority traffic.
>
> Frans
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