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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:46:54 -0500
From: Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@...omium.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] clocksource: arch_timer: Allow the device tree to
specify uninitialized CNTVOFF
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> Hi Sonny,
>
> This looks generally fine, but there are a couple of minor changes below
> that I would like to see (removing arm64/armv8 confusion, and describing
> the problem more precisely).
>
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 07:37:32AM +0100, Sonny Rao wrote:
>> From: Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>
>>
>> Some 32-bit (ARMv7) systems are architected like this:
>>
>> * The firmware doesn't know and doesn't care about hypervisor mode and
>> we don't want to add the complexity of hypervisor there.
>>
>> * The firmware isn't involved in SMP bringup or resume.
>>
>> * The ARCH timer come up with an uninitialized offset (CNTVOFF)
>> between the virtual and physical counters. Each core gets a
>> different random offset.
>>
>> * The device boots in "Secure SVC" mode.
>>
>> * Nothing has touched the reset value of CNTHCTL.PL1PCEN or
>> CNTHCTL.PL1PCTEN (both default to 1 at reset)
>>
>> On systems like the above, it doesn't make sense to use the virtual
>> counter. There's nobody managing the offset and each time a core goes
>> down and comes back up it will get reinitialized to some other random
>> value.
>>
>> This adds an optional property which can inform the kernel of this
>> situation, and firmware is free to remove the property if it is going
>> to initialize the CNTVOFF registers when each CPU comes out of reset.
>>
>> Currently, the best course of action in this case is to use the
>> physical timer, which is why it is important that CNTHCTL hasn't been
>> changed from its reset value and it's a reasonable assumption given
>> that the firmware has never entered HYP mode.
>>
>> Note that it's been said that ARM64 (ARMv8) systems the firmware and
>> kernel really can't be architected as described above. That means
>> using the physical timer like this really only makes sense for ARMv7
>> systems.
>
> Please drop the mention of arm64 here, and just say ARMv8 (they aren't
> quite the same thing, and this confuses the matter). The differences
> w.r.t. privilege boundaries and reset values are properties of ARMv8,
> and would also apply to a 32-bit kernel.
>
>> Signed-off-by: Doug Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@...omium.org>
>> ---
>> Changes in v2:
>> - Add "#ifdef CONFIG_ARM" as per Will Deacon
>>
>> Changes in v3:
>> - change property name to arm,cntvoff-not-fw-configured and specify
>> that the value of CNTHCTL.PL1PC(T)EN must still be the reset value
>> of 1 as per Mark Rutland
>> ---
>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt | 8 ++++++++
>> drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 9 +++++++++
>> 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
>> index 37b2caf..67837c9 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arch_timer.txt
>> @@ -22,6 +22,14 @@ to deliver its interrupts via SPIs.
>> - always-on : a boolean property. If present, the timer is powered through an
>> always-on power domain, therefore it never loses context.
>>
>> +** Optional properties:
>> +
>> +- arm,cntvoff-not-fw-configured : Firmware does not initialize
>> + CNTVOFF, which may reset to arbitrary and different values on each
>> + CPU. CNTHCTL.PL1PC(T)EN must both be 1, which is the reset value
>> + specificed by the architecture. Only supported for ARM (not ARM64).
>
> Could we change this to:
>
> - arm,cpu-registers-not-fw-configured: Firmware does not initialize any
> of the generic timer CPU registers, which contain their
> architecturally-defined reset values. Only supported for 32-bit
> systems which follow the ARMv7 architected reset values.
Bikeshedding a bit, but it seems a bit wordy. Are you hoping people
will get tired of typing it and fix their firmware instead? ;) Perhaps
"arm,reg-need-init" or "arm,broken-fw-cfg". The latter name implies
you don't really want to have that option.
Rob
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