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Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:38:06 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <>
Cc:	Al Viro <>,
	Andrey Vagin <>,
	Linux FS Devel <>,
	"" <>,
	Linux API <>,
	Andrey Vagin <>,
	Andrew Morton <>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <>,
	Serge Hallyn <>,
	Rob Landley <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] mnt: add ability to clone mntns starting with the
 current root

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Eric W. Biederman <> wrote:
> Andy Lutomirski <> writes:
>> Why should MNT_LOCKED on submounts be enforced?
>> Is it because, if you retain a reference to the detached tree, then
>> you can see under the submounts?
> Yes. MNT_DETACH is a recursive operation that detaches all of the mount
> and all of it's submounts.  Which means you can see under the submounts
> if you have a reference to a detached mount.
>> If so, let's fix *that*.  Because
>> otherwise the whole model of pivot_root + detach will break.
> I am not certain what you are referring to.  pivot_root doesn't
> manipulate the mount tree so you can see under anything.
> What I believe is the appropriate fix is to fail umount2(...,MNT_DETACH)
> if there are any referenced mount points being detached that have a
> locked submount.

Most of the container-using things do, roughly:

Unshare userns and mountns
Mount some new stuff
pivot_root to the new stuff
MNT_DETACH the old.

That last step will almost always fail if you make this change.

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