Date:	Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:17:21 +0300
From:	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Peter Huewe <PeterHuewe@....de>, keyrings@...ux-nfs.org,
	jarkko.sakkinnen@...ux.intel.com,
	"ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org" 
	<ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	tpmdd-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	linux-ima-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	trousers-tech@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [Ksummit-discuss] TPM MiniSummit @ LinuxCon Europe

Hey,

apologies for top-posting but which day/time/place is this going to be held?

/Jarkko

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:42:33AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2014 2:07 AM, "Peter Huewe" <PeterHuewe@....de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to 'invite' all interested parties in a short TPM minisummit where we can discuss the following hot topics of the TPM subsystem over a beer or two:
> >  - State of the TPM Subsystem
> >  - De-/Initialization Mess
> >  - Devm'ification
> >  - Testing
> >  - TPM 2.0 Support
> >  - Dependencies / interaction with other subsystems (e.g. keyring / IMA)
> >  - Status of old 1.1b TPM drivers, deprecation plans
> >  - ...
> >
> 
> I am unlikely to be there, but I have a feature request / food for thought:
> 
> Using a mandatory userspace daemon (e.g. trousers) for TPM access
> sucks.  Might it be possible to teach the kernel to handle context
> save and restore and let multiple processes open the device at once?
> Then a daemon wouldn't be necessary.
> 
> There would still be a need for some policy (e.g. who can clear the
> SRK), but that should be manageable.  Maybe there should be two device
> nodes.  /dev/tpm_unpriv would be fully virtualized for access by
> multiple processes, but it would only allow use of the key hierarchy
> and read access to PCRs.  /dev/tpm_priv would allow NV access, PCR
> writes, SRK clears, etc.
> 
> --Andy
> 
> >
> > Please register your interest by filling out this doodle
> >  http://doodle.com/q9ezcrivhqrktw6u
> >
> > I'm not sure if I can get any funding for the summit... but maybe I can arrange something.
> >
> >
> > Also I'm trying to bring along some TPM samples from my employer if possible.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Peter
> >
> > p.s.: experienced kernel developers welcome :)
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