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Date:	Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:45:28 +0100
From:	Al Viro <>
To:	Miklos Szeredi <>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <>,
	Maxim Patlasov <>,
	Anand Avati <>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
	Michael j Theall <>,
	fuse-devel <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] fuse: handle release synchronously (v4)

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 07:24:54PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 08:01:13PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > And what you don't get is that there's a deep difference between those
> > and the /proc file access case.
> > 
> > And the difference is that one is done because of an explicit action
> > by the holder of the open file.  And the other is done by some random
> > process doing non-invasive examination of the holder of the open-file.
> Such as ls -l /proc/*/fd/*?  That will give you the same transient EBUSY
> from umount, if it hits the right moment...

stat -L /proc/*/fd/*, that is...
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