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Message-ID: <20141020160009.GK23751@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:00:09 +0100
From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Matteo Franchin <Matteo.Franchin@....com>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] futex: Ensure get_futex_key_refs() always implies a
barrier
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 04:32:00PM +0100, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Catalin Marinas
> <catalin.marinas@....com> wrote:
> > Since you mention symmetry, something like below makes the barriers more
> > explicit.
>
> Borken, for two reasons:
>
> > diff --git a/kernel/futex.c b/kernel/futex.c
> > index f3a3a071283c..5b9d857d0816 100644
> > --- a/kernel/futex.c
> > +++ b/kernel/futex.c
> > @@ -143,9 +143,7 @@
> > static inline void futex_get_mm(union futex_key *key)
> > {
> > atomic_inc(&key->private.mm->mm_count);
> > - /*
> > - * Ensure futex_get_mm() implies a full barrier such that
> > - * get_futex_key() implies a full barrier. This is relied upon
> > - * as full barrier (B), see the ordering comment above.
> > - */
> > - smp_mb__after_atomic();
> > }
>
> So the thing is, this means that we can't take advantage of the fact
> that "atomic_inc" is already an atomic. So this is just a performance
> breakage. But:
OK, I looked at this from an ARM perspective only and it would not make
any difference. But it seems that MIPS makes a distinction between
"before" and "after" barriers with "before" defined as wmb in some
configuration, so the hunk below would break it.
> > static inline int hb_waiters_pending(struct futex_hash_bucket *hb)
> > {
> > + /*
> > + * Full barrier (B), see the ordering comment above.
> > + */
> > + smp_mb__before_atomic();
> > #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > return atomic_read(&hb->waiters);
>
> This is just entirely broken.
>
> "atomic_read()" isn't really an "atomic op" at all. despite the name,
> it's just a read that is basically ACCESS_ONCE.
>
> So smp_mb__before_atomic() doesn't work for atomic_read(), and the
> code is nonsensical and doesn't work. It would need to be a full
> memory barrier.
Looking at the semantics of smp_mb__*_atomic(), it would indeed have to
be a full smp_mb() here.
--
Catalin
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