lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-Id: <20141022.160845.1338578429923954456.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:08:45 -0400 (EDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	oleg@...hat.com
Cc:	peterz@...radead.org, cl@...ux.com, tkhai@...dex.ru,
	ktkhai@...allels.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	mingo@...hat.com, vdavydov@...allels.com
Subject: Re: introduce probe_slab_address?

From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:42:28 +0200

> Now the question: is this LOAD is safe in case when this (freed) page
> already has another mapping? This is black magic to me, I do not know.
> And Peter has some concerns.

It is immatieral, because you can read garbage and it's "don't care"
in this context.

And later if it is used again at this virtual address, it will be
initialized with stores at that virtual address first.

So no problem.

> And, say, copy_from_user_page() on sparc does
> 
> 	flush_cache_page();
> 	memcpy();
> 	flush_ptrace_access();

In this case, as I tried to explain, it matters because the physical
address is being accessed from two virtual address at the same time
"for the same usage".

That's what distinguishes this from the SLAB and RCU cases you cite.

Illegal aliases only matter within a specific usage of a piece of
memory.

So if a page is mapped into userspace, and we touch the kernel side
PAGE_OFFSET alias mapping of it, we can have problems.  And that is
what is happening in the ptrace case above.

But if we are using the page later in SLAB, the previous userspace
mapping will not cause problems wrt. aliasing.  It cannot, because
once SLAB gets the page it will initialize it at the new virtual
address.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ