lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1410281044420.5308@nanos>
Date:	Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:42:45 +0100 (CET)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Ren Qiaowei <qiaowei.ren@...el.com>
cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>, x86@...nel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@...r.kernel.org, linux-mips@...ux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 11/12] x86, mpx: cleanup unused bound tables

On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Ren Qiaowei wrote:
> On 10/28/2014 04:49 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Ren Qiaowei wrote:
> > > If so, I guess that there are some questions needed to be considered:
> > > 
> > > 1) Almost all palces which call do_munmap() will need to add
> > > mpx_pre_unmap/post_unmap calls, like vm_munmap(), mremap(), shmdt(), etc..
> > 
> > What's the problem with that?
> > 
> 
> For example:
> 
> shmdt()
>     down_write(mm->mmap_sem);
>     vma = find_vma();
>     while (vma)
>         do_munmap();
>     up_write(mm->mmap_sem);
> 
> We could not simply add mpx_pre_unmap() before do_munmap() or down_write().
> And seems like it is a little hard for shmdt() to be changed to match this
> solution, right?

Everything which does not fall in place right away seems to be a
little hard, heavy weight or whatever excuses you have for it.

It's not that hard, really. We can simply split out the search code
into a seperate function and use it for both problems.

Yes, it is quite some work to do, but its straight forward.

> > > 3) According to Dave, those bounds tables related to adjacent VMAs within
> > > the
> > > start and the end possibly don't have to be fully unmmaped, and we only
> > > need
> > > free the part of backing physical memory.
> > 
> > Care to explain why that's a problem?
> > 
> 
> I guess you mean one new field mm->bd_remove_vmas should be added into staruct
> mm, right?

That was just to demonstrate the approach. I'm giving you a hint how
to do it, I'm not telling you what the exact solution will be. If I
need to do that, then I can implement it myself right away.

> For those VMAs which we only need to free part of backing physical memory, we
> could not clear bounds directory entries and should also mark the range of
> backing physical memory within this vma. If so, maybe there are too many new
> fields which will be added into mm struct, right?

If we need more data to carry over from pre to post, we can allocate a
proper data structure and just add a pointer to that to mm. And it's
not written in stone, that you need to carry that information from pre
to post. You could do the unmap/zap work in the pre phase already and
reduce mpx_post_unmap() to up_write(mm->bt_sem).

I gave you an idea and the center point of that idea is to have a
separate rwsem to protect against the various races, fault handling
etc. You still have to think about the implementation details.

Thanks,

	tglx






--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ