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Date:	Wed, 05 Nov 2014 16:54:33 +0200
From:	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@...sung.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
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	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
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	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
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	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@...afoo.de>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@...sung.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@...sung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/5] PM / Runtime: Add getter for querying the IRQ safe option

Hi Russell,

On Monday 03 November 2014 17:04:08 Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 09:57:28PM +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 02:29:42AM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >> Many other drivers suffer from the same problem. While I won't reject
> >> your proposed fix, I would prefer a more generic approach.
> >> 
> >> One option that has been discussed previously was to use a work queue to
> >> delay starting the DMA transfer to an interruptible context where
> >> pm_runtime_get_sync() could be called. However, as Russell pointed out
> >> [1],
> >> even that won't work in all cases as the DMA slave might need the
> >> transfer to be started before enabling part of its hardware (OMAP audio
> >> seem to be such a case).
> >> 
> >> I've heard a rumor of a possible DMA engine rework to forbid calling the
> >> descriptor preparation API from atomic context. This could be used as a
> >> base to implement runtime PM, as DMA slave drivers should not prepare
> >> descriptors if they don't need to use them. However that's a long term
> >> plan, and we need a solution sooner than that.
> > 
> > Well it is not a rumour :)
> > 
> > I have been contemplating that now that async_tx will be killed so we dont
> > have to worry about that usage. For the slave dma usage, we can change the
> > prepare API to be non atomic. I think the users will be okay with
> > approach. This way drivers can use runtime pm calls in prepare.
> 
> Except we /do/ have a fair number of places where the prep calls are made
> from atomic contexts, particularly in serial drivers.  You'd need to
> introduce a tasklet into almost every serial driver which doesn't
> already have one to restart RX DMA after an error or pause.  Eg,
> 
> drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c
> drivers/tty/serial/pch_uart.c
> drivers/tty/serial/imx.c

I wonder whether it would be possible to decouple descriptor allocation and 
descriptor initialization/preparation. If drivers could allocate descriptors 
and reuse them after they complete, not only would it lower the memory 
management pressure by getting rid of alloc/free during transmission, but it 
would also make it possible to easily allocate the transaction descriptors 
beforehand in non-atomic context.

> Probably also:
> 
> drivers/net/ethernet/micrel/ks8842.c
> 
> There could well be other places as well, I've not gone through and
> checked exhaustively.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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