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Date:	Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:53:06 +0900
From:	Namhyung Kim <>
To:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <>,
	Ingo Molnar <>,
	Paul Mackerras <>,
	Namhyung Kim <>,
	LKML <>,
	Jiri Olsa <>,
	Adrian Hunter <>,
	David Ahern <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] perf tools: Allow vmlinux to fallback to kallsyms on NO_LIBELF=1

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:29:31 -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:20:04PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
>> When libelf is not used, perf cannot not show symbol names since it
>> doesn't access the ELF symbol table.  But kernel is different as it
>> can fallback to kallsyms.
>> It worked w/o libelf, but recent change to use vmlinux for kernel
>> symbols break it.
>> With this change, it now can show kernel symbols again:
> Ok, but since you added that minimal ELF symtab loading, isn't better to
> try that first, i.e. if we find a vmlinux file with a build-id and with
> symbols in it...
> If that isn't the case, i.e. no vmlinux was found, then we fallback to
> kallsyms, to check if that is available.
> I.e. with your new minimalistic ELF symtab loader if we have a suitable
> vmlinux but no kallsyms, we end up resolving no symbols even having that
> nice vmlinux :-)

Yeah, maybe.  But it'd add a substantial complexity also and I tried to
make it simple and small only to show usual userspace symbols.

I think that about a half of the complexity of the dso__load_sym() in
symbol-elf.c came from the kernel (and module) support.  And expecting
kallsyms on the system is not a high barrier IMHO.  So I decided to just
fall back to kallsyms for kernel dsos.  Mayby we can add the kernel
support incrementally later.

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