linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] perf-cache command interface design

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Date:	Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:53:42 +0900
From:	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>
To:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
Cc:	Hemant Kumar <hemant@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	peterz@...radead.org, oleg@...hat.com,
	hegdevasant@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, mingo@...hat.com,
	systemtap@...rceware.org, aravinda@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	penberg@....fi, brendan.d.gregg@...il.com,
	"yrl.pp-manager.tt@...achi.com" <yrl.pp-manager.tt@...achi.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf-cache command interface design

(2014/11/10 21:23), Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 07:59:24PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu escreveu:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Here is the second try for the probe-cache. This version simplifies
>> the synopsis, and unifies the SDT and probe caches.
>> Please give me your comments/ideas!
>>
>> Command-line Synopsis
>> =====================
>>
>> Add elf(or symbols) and probe-caches of SDT if exists in <FILES>
>>  perf cache --add <FILES> [--probe <SPEC>] # for user programs
> 
> Why the --probe above? Shouldn't this be just (if you are talking about
> ELF files only):
> 
> perf cache --add <FILES>

Yes, for the elf and sdt cache, we don't need --probe.
Note that "[]" means optional. If we would like to add some probe cache,
we need a spec of probe definition.

>>  perf cache --kcore <FILE> [--probe <SPEC>] # for kcore ?
> 
> Adrian, aren't kcore files easily identifiable as such and thus could be
> added as:
> 
>  perf cache --add <FILES>
>  
>>  perf cache --probe <SPEC>  # for the current kernel
> 
> Why do we need a --probe here? Don't they always start with a character
> that is seldomly used in ELF file names and thus we could get away with
> not requiring --probe?

This is only for adding the probe cache (not elf, nor sdt), which requires
a probe definition. Moreover, I'd like to unify the specification of the
probe definition with perf-probe. In that case, --probe is more natural.

>> Remove caches related to <FILES> or <BUILDIDS>
>>  perf cache --remove <FILES>|<BUILDIDS>
>>
>> Show all probe caches(including SDT) or buildids
>>  perf cache --list [probe|buildid]
>>
>> Delete existing probe-cache entries for kernel, <PATH> or/and <BUILDID>.
>>  perf cache　--probe-del [<GROUP>:]<EVENT>[@<PATH>][#<BUILDID>]
> 
> Ditto, i.e. can't we just use:
> 
>  perf cache　--remove [<GROUP>:]<EVENT>[@<PATH>][#<BUILDID>]
> 
> And it figure out that this is a probe that is being removed?

In most cases, it may be OK, but it is also possible to cause unexpected
result when mis-typing. I think if <FILE> is always starting at '/', it
is easy to identify.

>> Query the probe definitions.
>>  perf cache --query [<GROUP>:]<EVENT>[@<PATH>][#<BUILDID>]
> 
> Replace --query with --show?

OK.

Thank you,

>  
>> File Format
>> ===========
>> All the cache files are placed under ~/.debug/ by default.
>> Elf caches are ~/.debug/path/to/file/bu/ildid/elf
>> Symbols caches are ~/.debug/path/to/file/bu/ildid/syms
>> Probes(and SDT) are ~/.debug/path/to/file/bu/ildid/probes
>> And ~/.debug/path/to/file/bu/ildid/ is linked to ~/.debug/.buildid/bu/ildid
>> Optionally, we can gzip the probes file.
> 
> Ok!
>  
>> This probe caches contain probe-definitions as following format.
>> ----
>> #buildid:BUILDID
>> #spec:SDT
>> p:sdt_<PROVIDER>/<EVENT> PATH:OFFSET [ARGS]
>> ...
>> #spec:* $params
>> p:probe_<GROUP>/<EVENT> _text+OFFSET [ARGS]
>> ...
>> ----
>> So the #spec: line gives the information what probe spec has been given.
>> This will be used for updating.
>>
>> And all the "probe_" and "sdt_" prefix will be replaced by % in the command line,
>> e.g.
>>
>>  perf record -e %<PROVIDER>/<EVENT> -> this records sdt_PROVIDER/EVENT
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> -- 
>> Masami HIRAMATSU
>> Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
>> Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
>> E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com
>>
> 


-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com


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