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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:38:11 -0800
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Torvald Riegel <triegel@...hat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: POSIX mutex destruction requirements vs. futexes
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Torvald Riegel <triegel@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> Using reference-counting in critical sections to decide when the mutex
> protecting the critical section can be destroyed has been recently
> discussed on LKML. For example, something like this is supposed to
> work:
>
> int free = 0;
>
> mutex_lock(&s->lock);
> if (--s->refcount == 0)
> free = 1
> mutex_unlock(&s->lock);
> if (free)
> kfree(s);
Yeah, this is a nasty case. We've had this bug in the kernel, and only
allow self-locking data structures with spinlocks (in which the unlock
operation is guaranteed to release the lock and never touch the data
structure afterwards in any way - no "unlock fastpath followed by
still touching it").
> This requirement is tough to implement for glibc -- or with futexes in
> general -- because what one would like to do in a mutex unlock
> implementation based on futexes is the following, roughly:
>
> lock():
> while (1) {
> // fast path: assume uncontended lock
> if (atomic_compare_exchange_acquire(&futex, NOT_ACQUIRED, ACQUIRED)
> == SUCCESS)
> return;
> // slow path: signal that there is a slow-path waiter and block
> prev = atomic_exchange(&futex, ACQUIRED_AND_WAITERS);
> if (prev == NOT_ACQUIRED) return;
> futex_wait(&futex, ACQUIRED_AND_WAITERS, ...);
> }
>
> unlock():
> // fast path unlock
> prev = atomic_exchange_release(&futex, NOT_ACQUIRED);
> // slow path unlock
> if (prev == ACQUIRED_AND_WAITERS)
> futex_wake(&futex, ...);
Yup.
> This means that in the second example above, futex_wake can be
> concurrent with whatever happens on the mutex' memory location after the
> mutex has been destroyed. Examples are:
> * The memory is unmapped. futex_wake will return an error. OK.
> * The memory is reused, but not for a futex. No thread will get
> woken. OK.
> * The memory is reused for another glibc mutex. The slow-path
> futex wake will now hit another, unrelated futex -- but the
> mutex implementation is robust to such spurious wake-ups anyway,
> because it can always happen when a mutex is acquired and
> released more than once. OK.
> * The memory is reused for another futex in some custom data
> structure that expects there is just one wait/wake cycle, and
> relies on FUTEX_WAIT returning 0 to mean that this is caused by
> the matching FUTEX_WAKE call by *this* data structure. Not OK,
> because now the delayed slow-path wake-up introduces a spurious
> wake-up in an unrelated futex.
>
> Thus, introducing spurious wake-ups is the core issue.
So my gut feeling is that we should just try to see if we can live
with spurious wakeups, ie your:
> (1) Allow spurious wake-ups from FUTEX_WAIT.
because afaik that is what we actually *do* today (we'll wake up
whoever re-used that location in another thread), and it's mainly
about the whole documentation issue. No?
Linus
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