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Date:	Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:06:59 +0300
From:	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	systemd Mailing List <systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] proc, pidns: Add highpid

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 03:05:01PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Pid reuse is common, which means that it's difficult or impossible
> to read information about a pid from /proc without races.
> 
> This introduces a second number associated with each (task, pidns)
> pair called highpid.  Highpid is a 64-bit number, and, barring
> extremely unlikely circumstances or outright error, a (highpid, pid)
> will never be reused.
> 
> With just this change, a program can open /proc/PID/status, read the
> "Highpid" field, and confirm that it has the expected value.  If the
> pid has been reused, then highpid will be different.
> 
> The initial implementation is straightforward: highpid is simply a
> 64-bit counter. If a high-end system can fork every 3 ns (which
> would be amazing, given that just allocating a pid requires at
> atomic operation), it would take well over 1000 years for highpid to
> wrap.
> 
> For CRIU's benefit, the next highpid can be set by a privileged
> user.
> 
> NB: The sysctl stuff only works on 64-bit systems.  If the approach
> looks good, I'll fix that somehow.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
> ---
> 
> If this goes in, there's plenty of room to add new interfaces to
> make this more useful.  For example, we could add a fancier tgkill
> that adds and validates hightgid and highpid, and we might want to
> add a syscall to read one's own hightgid and highpid.  These would
> be quite useful for pidfiles.
> 
> David, would this be useful for kdbus?
> 
> CRIU people: will this be unduly difficult to support in CRIU?

Hi Andy. I think it won't be hard to support.
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