Message-ID: <20141201175908.GA22023@leverpostej>
Date:	Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:59:08 +0000
From:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
To:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc:	Stefan Agner <stefan@...er.ch>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] power: reset: read priority from device tree

On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 05:51:34PM +0000, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 05:41:00PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 05:24:37PM +0000, Stefan Agner wrote:
> > > On 2014-12-01 18:11, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 05:03:07PM +0000, Stefan Agner wrote:
> > > >> This patch adds an optional property which allows to specify the
> > > >> reset source priority. This priority is used by the kernel restart
> > > >> handler call chain to sort out the proper reset/restart method.
> > > >> Depending on the power design of a board or other machine/board
> > > >> specific peculiarity, it is not possible to pick a generic priority.
> > > >>
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Stefan Agner <stefan@...er.ch>
> > > >> ---
> > > >>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/syscon-reboot.txt | 3 +++
> > > >>  drivers/power/reset/syscon-reboot.c                             | 5 ++++-
> > > >>  2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >>
> > > >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/syscon-reboot.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/syscon-reboot.txt
> > > >> index 1190631..ee41d9c 100644
> > > >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/syscon-reboot.txt
> > > >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/syscon-reboot.txt
> > > >> @@ -11,6 +11,9 @@ Required properties:
> > > >>  - offset: offset in the register map for the reboot register (in bytes)
> > > >>  - mask: the reset value written to the reboot register (32 bit access)
> > > >>
> > > >> +Optional properties:
> > > >> +- priority: define the priority of the reset (0-255, defaults to 128)
> > > >> +
> > > > 
> > > > NAK. This is a leak of Linux-internal details.
> > > > 
> > > > What is this necessary for?
> > > > 
> > > > Mark.
> > > 
> > > Hi Mark,
> > > 
> > > In my case, it is necessary to be called ahead of the watchdog, which
> > > has a priority of 128. This syscon-reboot driver currently has a default
> > > priority of 128 too. I could live with a higher default priority for the
> > > syscon-reboot driver, in fact I proposed that in the discussion of v1 of
> > > that patch:
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/11/28/484
> > 
> > Thanks for the link.
> > 
> > > IMHO, this priority might make sense for most cases, I guess that
> > > dedicated "syscon" capabilities are usually better suited as a reboot
> > > source than watchdog.
> > 
> > I would think likewise.
> > 
> > > If dt, then the question which arises: If there are different
> > > capabilities to reset/reboot a whole system, how do we reflect which is
> > > the best suited one in dt?
> > 
> > I'm not sure, but I don't think that exposing a priority variable in
> > this way is the best, because it implicitly relies on what the kernel
> > may have selected for other devices and/or FW interfaces, which may not
> > have been described in DT.
> > 
> > So if we can get away with a fixed priority for now, then I would prefer
> > that.
> > 
> > Otherwise, I would imagine that most systems have a single preferred
> > mechanism with some possible fallback(s), for which a single
> > preferred-poweroff property might suffice, and has better interaction
> > w.r.t. priority (in that it should _always_ be tried first). Even that's
> > difficult to reconcile with FW bindings though, especially EFI (which we
> > sometimes must use in preference for variable storage and capsule
> > updates).
> > 
> Hi mark,
> 
> reboot, not poweroff, but I like that idea; it is system independent,
> and I agree that there should be only one "preferred-reboot" mechanism.
> If we need more we can always add something like "fallback-reboot".

Ah, sorry, I got myself confused regarding reboot/poweroff. Goot to hear
we agree on the preferred-$X (where X is reboot in this case).

> Not sure I understand the reference to EFI. Does EFI install a means
> to restart the system ?

Through EFI runtime services there's a mechanism to reset the machine.
In certain cases this must be called so as to allow EFI to set things up
to run after reboot (e.g. capsules for FW updates), while in other cases
it's perfectly fine to call other mechanisms directly.

> Also, doesn't the proprity question apply even if there is no dt
> property to establish the preference ?

Indeed.

My concern is having some priorities described in DT and some being
implicit in the kernel source, as the implicit priorities might change
independently of the explicit ones given in DT. At least with a single
preferred mechanism in DT we can force that to override all implicit
ones (though I'm not entirely sure how that would interact with the EFI
reboot case).

Thanks,
Mark.
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