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Message-ID: <547CCC10.8040706@de.ibm.com>
Date:	Mon, 01 Dec 2014 21:14:08 +0100
From:	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>
To:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>
CC:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 07/30] cputime: Convert kcpustat to nsecs

Am 01.12.2014 um 18:15 schrieb Thomas Gleixner:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:10:34 +0100
>> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking about the degradation in s390:
>>>
>>> s390 is really a special case. And it would be a shame if we prevent from a
>>> real core cleanup just for this special case especially as it's fairly possible
>>> to keep a specific treatment for s390 in order not to impact its performances
>>> and time precision. We could simply accumulate the cputime in per-cpu values:
>>>
>>> struct s390_cputime {
>>>        cputime_t user, sys, softirq, hardirq, steal;
>>> }
>>>
>>> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct s390_cputime, s390_cputime);
>>>
>>> Then on irq entry/exit, just add the accumulated time to the relevant buffer
>>> and account for real (through any account_...time() functions) only on tick
>>> and task switch. There the costly operations (unit conversion and call to
>>> account_...._time() functions) are deferred to a rarer yet periodic enough
>>> event. This is what s390 does already for user/system time and kernel
>>> boundaries.
>>>
>>> This way we should even improve the situation compared to what we have
>>> upstream. It's going to be faster because calling the accounting functions
>>> can be costlier than simple per-cpu ops. And also we keep the cputime_t
>>> granularity. For archs like s390 which have a granularity higher than nsecs,
>>> we can have:
>>>
>>>    u64 cputime_to_nsecs(cputime_t time, u64 *rem);
>>>
>>> And to avoid remainder losses, we can do that from the tick:
>>>
>>>     delta_cputime = this_cpu_read(s390_cputime.hardirq);
>>>     delta_nsec = cputime_to_nsecs(delta_cputime, &rem);
>>>     account_system_time(delta_nsec, HARDIRQ_OFFSET);
>>>     this_cpu_write(s390_cputime.hardirq, rem);
>>>
>>> Although I doubt that remainders below one nsec lost each tick matter that much.
>>> But if it does, it's fairly possible to handle like above.
>>  
>> To make that work we would have to move some of the logic from account_system_time
>> to the architecture code. The decision if a system time delta is guest time,
>> irq time, softirq time or simply system time is currently done in 
>> kernel/sched/cputime.c.
>>
>> As the conversion + the accounting is delayed to a regular tick we would have
>> to split the accounting code into decision functions which bucket a system time
>> delta should go to and introduce new function to account to the different buckets.
>>
>> Instead of a single account_system_time we would have account_guest_time,
>> account_system_time, account_system_time_irq and account_system_time_softirq.
>>
>> In principle not a bad idea, that would make the interrupt path for s390 faster
>> as we would not have to call account_system_time, only the decision function
>> which could be an inline function.
> 
> Why make this s390 specific?
> 
> We can decouple the accounting from the time accumulation for all
> architectures.
> 
> struct cputime_record {
>        u64 user, sys, softirq, hardirq, steal;
> };

 Wont we need guest, nice, guest_nice as well?

> 
> DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct cputime_record, cputime_record);
> 
> Now let account_xxx_time() just work on that per cpu data
> structures. That would just accumulate the deltas based on whatever
> the architecture uses as a cputime source with whatever resolution it
> provides.
> 
> Then we collect that accumulated results for the various buckets on a
> regular base and convert them to nano seconds. This is not even
> required to be at the tick, it could be done by some async worker and
> on idle enter/exit.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
> 
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