Message-ID: <20141204144454.GB15219@htj.dyndns.org>
Date:	Thu, 4 Dec 2014 09:44:54 -0500
From:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"\\\"Rafael J. Wysocki\\\"" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] OOM, PM: make OOM detection in the freezer path
 raceless

On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 03:16:23PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > A delta but shouldn't it be pr_cont()?
> 
> kernel/power/process.c doesn't use pr_* so I've stayed with what the
> rest of the file is using. I can add a patch which transforms all of
> them.

The console output becomes wrong when printk() is used on
continuation.  So, yeah, it'd be great to fix it.

> > > +extern bool oom_killer_disabled;
> > 
> > Ugh... don't we wanna put this in a header file?
> 
> Who else would need the declaration? This is not something random code
> should look at.

Let's say, somebody changes the type to ulong for whatever reason
later and forgets to update this declaration.  What happens then on a
big endian machine?

Jesus, this is basic C programming.  You don't sprinkle external
declarations which the compiler can't verify against the actual
definitions.  There's absolutely no compelling reason to do that here.
Why would you take out compiler verification for no reason?

> > > +void mark_tsk_oom_victim(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > >  {
> > > -	return atomic_read(&oom_kills);
> > > +	BUG_ON(oom_killer_disabled);
> > 
> > WARN_ON_ONCE() is prolly a better option here?
> 
> Well, something fishy is going on when oom_killer_disabled is set and we
> mark new OOM victim. This is a clear bug. Why would be warning and a
> allow the follow up breakage?

Because the system is more likely to be able to go on and we don't BUG
when we can WARN as a general rule.  Working systems is almost always
better than a dead system even for debugging.

> > > +	if (test_and_set_tsk_thread_flag(tsk, TIF_MEMDIE))
> > 
> > Can a task actually be selected as an OOM victim multiple times?
> 
> AFAICS nothing prevents from global OOM and memcg OOM killers racing.

Maybe it'd be a good idea to note that in the comment?

> > > -void note_oom_kill(void)
> > > +void unmark_tsk_oom_victim(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > >  {
> > > -	atomic_inc(&oom_kills);
> > > +	int count;
> > > +
> > > +	if (!test_and_clear_tsk_thread_flag(tsk, TIF_MEMDIE))
> > > +		return;
> > 
> > Maybe test this inline in exit_mm()?  e.g.
> > 
> > 	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE))
> > 		unmark_tsk_oom_victim(current);
> 
> Why do you think testing TIF_MEMDIE in exit_mm is better? I would like
> to reduce the usage of the flag as much as possible.

Because it's adding a function call/return to hot path for everybody.
It sure is a miniscule cost but we're adding that for no good reason.

> > So, each complete() increments the done count and wait decs.  The
> > above code works iff the complete()'s and wait()'s are always balanced
> > which usually isn't true in this type of wait code.  Either use
> > reinit_completion() / complete_all() combos or wait_event().
> 
> Hmm, I thought that only a single instance of freeze_kernel_threads
> (which calls oom_killer_disable) can run at a time. But I am currently
> not sure that all paths are called under lock_system_sleep.
> I am not familiar with reinit_completion API. Is the following correct?

Hmmm... wouldn't wait_event() easier to read in this case?

...
> > Maybe 0 / -errno is better choice as return values?
> 
> I do not have problem to change this if you feel strong about it but
> true/false sounds easier to me and it allows the caller to decide what to
> report. If there were multiple reasons to fail then sure but that is not
> the case.

It's not a big deal but except for functions which have clear boolean
behavior - functions which try/attempt something or query or decide
certain things - randomly thrown in bool returns tend to become
confusing especially because its bool fail value is the opposite of
0/-errno fail value.  So, "this function only fails with one reason"
is usually a bad and arbitrary reason for choosing bool return which
causes confusion on callsites and headaches when the function develops
more reasons to fail.

...
> > > @@ -712,12 +770,16 @@ void pagefault_out_of_memory(void)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct zonelist *zonelist;
> > >  
> > > +	down_read(&oom_sem);
> > >  	if (mem_cgroup_oom_synchronize(true))
> > > -		return;
> > > +		goto unlock;
> > >  
> > >  	zonelist = node_zonelist(first_memory_node, GFP_KERNEL);
> > >  	if (oom_zonelist_trylock(zonelist, GFP_KERNEL)) {
> > > -		out_of_memory(NULL, 0, 0, NULL, false);
> > > +		if (!oom_killer_disabled)
> > > +			__out_of_memory(NULL, 0, 0, NULL, false);
> > >  		oom_zonelist_unlock(zonelist, GFP_KERNEL);
> > 
> > Is this a condition which can happen and we can deal with? With
> > userland fully frozen, there shouldn't be page faults which lead to
> > memory allocation, right?
> 
> Except for racing OOM victims which were missed by try_to_freeze_tasks
> because they didn't get cpu slice to wake up from the freezer. The task
> would die on the way out from the page fault exception. I have updated
> the changelog to be more verbose about this.

That's something very not obvious.  Let's please add a comment
explaining that.

> > (it only makes sense while the whole system is in quiescent state)
> > and at least trigger WARN_ON_ONCE() if the above code path gets
> > triggered while oom killer is disabled?
> 
> I can add a WARN_ON(!test_thread_flag(tsk, TIF_MEMDIE)).

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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