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Date:	Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:50:25 +0100
From:	Sander Eikelenboom <linux@...elenboom.it>
To:	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
CC:	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v5 9/9] xen/pciback: Implement PCI reset slot or bus with 'do_flr' SysFS attribute


Thursday, December 4, 2014, 3:31:11 PM, you wrote:

> On 04/12/14 14:09, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
>> 
>> Thursday, December 4, 2014, 2:43:06 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>>> On 04/12/14 13:10, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thursday, December 4, 2014, 1:24:47 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/12/14 12:06, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2014 6:30 AM, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/12/14 21:40, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of doing all this complex dance, we depend on the toolstack 
>>>>>>>> doing the right thing. As such implement the 'do_flr' SysFS attribute 
>>>>>>>> which 'xl' uses when a device is detached or attached from/to a guest. 
>>>>>>>> It bypasses the need to worry about the PCI lock. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.  Get pciback to add its own "reset" sysfs file (as I have repeatedly 
>>>>>>> proposed). 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which does not work as the kobj will complain (as there is already an 'reset' associated with the PCI device).
>>>>
>>>>> It is only needed if the core won't provide one.
>>>>
>>>>> +static int pcistub_try_create_reset_file(struct pci_dev *pci)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +       struct xen_pcibk_dev_data *dev_data = pci_get_drvdata(pci);
>>>>> +       struct device *dev = &pci->dev;
>>>>> +       int ret;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       /* Already have a per-function reset? */
>>>>> +       if (pci_probe_reset_function(pci) == 0)
>>>>> +               return 0;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       ret = device_create_file(dev, &dev_attr_reset);
>>>>> +       if (ret < 0)
>>>>> +               return ret;
>>>> +       dev_data->>created_reset_file = true;
>>>>> +       return 0;
>>>>> +}
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't the "core-reset-sysfs-file" be still wired to the end up calling 
>>>> "pci.c:__pci_dev_reset" ?
>>>>
>>>> The problem with that function is that from my testing it seems that the 
>>>> first option "pci_dev_specific_reset" always seems to return succes, so all the
>>>> other options are skipped (flr, pm, slot, bus). However the device it self is 
>>>> not properly reset enough (perhaps the pci_dev_specific_reset is good enough for 
>>>> none virtualization purposes and it's probably the least intrusive. For 
>>>> virtualization however it would be nice to be sure it resets properly, or have a 
>>>> way to force a specific reset routine.)
>> 
>>> Then you need work with the maintainer for those specific devices or
>>> drivers to fix their specific reset function.
>> 
>>> I'm not adding stuff to pciback to workaround broken quirks.
>> 
>> OK that's a pretty clear message there, so if one wants to use pci and vga
>> passthrough one should better use KVM and vfio-pci.

> Have you (or anyone else) ever raised the problem with the broken reset
> quirk for certain devices with the relevant maintainer?

>> vfio-pci has:
>> - logic to do the try-slot-bus-reset logic

> Just because vfio-pci fixed it incorrectly doesn't mean pciback has to
> as well.

Depends on what you call an "incorrect fix" .. it fixes a quirk .. 
you can say that's incorrect, but then you would have to remove 50% of
the kernel and Xen code as well.

(i do in general agree it's better to strive for a generic solution though,
that's exactly why i brought up that that function doesn't seem to work perfect
for virtualization purposes) 

> It makes no sense for both pciback and vfio-pci to workaround problems
> with pci_function_reset() in different ways -- it should be fixed in the
> core PCI code so both can benefit and make use of the same code.

Well perhaps Bjorn knows why the order of resets and skipping the rest as
implemented in "pci.c:__pci_dev_reset" was implemented in that way ?

Especially what is the expectation about pci_dev_specific_reset doing a proper 
reset for say a vga-card:
- i know it doesn't work on a radeon card (doesn't blank screen, on next guest 
  boot reports it's already posted, powermanagement doesn't work).
- while with a slot/bus reset, that all just works fine, screen blanks 
  immediately and everything else also works.

Added Alex as well since he added this workaround for KVM/vfio-pci, perhaps he knows why
he introduced the workaround in vfio-pci instead of trying to fix it in core pci 
code ?

--
Sander


> David



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