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Message-ID: <54807C31.7060709@intel.com>
Date:	Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:22:25 -0800
From:	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@...com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Dâniel Fraga <fragabr@...il.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@...cle.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: frequent lockups in 3.18rc4

On 12/03/2014 09:49 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Chris Mason <clm@...com> wrote:
>>
>> One guess is that trinity is generating a huge number of tlb
>> invalidations over sparse and horrible ranges.  Perhaps the old code was
>> falling back to full tlb flushes before Dave Hansen's string of fixes?
> 
> Hmm. I agree that we've had some of the backtraces look like TLB
> flushing might be involved. Not all, though. And I'm not seeing where
> a loop over up to 33 pages should matter over doing a full TLB flush.
> 
> What *might* matter is if we somehow get that number wrong, and the loops like
> 
>                         addr = f->flush_start;
>                         while (addr < f->flush_end) {
>                                 __flush_tlb_single(addr);
>                                 addr += PAGE_SIZE;
>                         }
> 
> ends up looping a *lot* due to some bug, and then the IPI itself would
> take so long that the watchdog could trigger.
> 
> But I do not see how that could actually happen. As far as I can tell,
> either the number of pages is limited to less than 33, or we have that
>  TLB_FLUSH_ALL case.
> 
> Do  you see something I don't?

The one thing I _do_ see now is a missed TLB flush is we're flushing one
page at the end of the address space.  We'd overflow flush_end back so
flush_end=0:

        if (!f->flush_end)	
                f->flush_end = f->flush_start + PAGE_SIZE; <-- overflow

and we'll never enter the while loop where we actually do the flush:

                        while (addr < f->flush_end) {
                                __flush_tlb_single(addr);
                                addr += PAGE_SIZE;
                        }

But we have a hole up there on x86_64, so this will never happen in
practice there.  It might theoretically apply to 32-bit, but this still
doesn't help with the bug.

Oh, and the tracepoint is spitting out bogus numbers because we need
some parenthesis around the 'nr_pages' calculation.
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