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Date:	Tue, 30 Dec 2014 21:41:41 +0100 (CET)
From:	Jiri Kosina <>
To:	"Grumbach, Emmanuel" <>
cc:	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	"" <>,
	"Berg, Johannes" <>
Subject: Re: iwlwifi-driver card doesn't work with 3.19-rc2+

On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote:

> You should also have the iw tool which will provide all you need
> using the nl80211 interface which is now the preferred interface.

There indeed is an iw tool.

The thing is really as simple as -- userspace which is calling other 
wireless-utils directly (such as, but absolutely not limited to, wicd), 
will completely stop working after commit 24a0aa212e.

I am still convinced that 24a0aa212e needs to be reverted, and compat 
layer maintained for *much* longer than 2 years.

If wireless maintainers think otherwise, I'll send a revert request to 
Linus for consideration.


Jiri Kosina
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