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Message-ID: <20150106134108.GB2517@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 6 Jan 2015 11:41:08 -0200
From:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
To:	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
Cc:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alexis Berlemont <alexis.berlemont@...il.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/30] perf tools: Add new build framework support

Em Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 12:13:35PM +0100, Jiri Olsa escreveu:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:57:51AM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 04:35:43PM +0100, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > +a) Build makefiles
> > > +------------------
> > > +User supplies 'Build' makefiles that contains objects summary,
> > > +like for example following 'krava/Build' file:
> > > +
> > > +  perf-y += a.o
> > > +  perf-y += b.o
> > > +
> > > +The build framework is triggered by:
> > > +  $ make -f Makefile.build dir=krava obj=perf
> > > +
> > > +which produces 'krava/perf-in.o' object file that has both
> > > +a.o and b.o objects compiled in linked together.
> > > +
> > > +The 'Build' makefile can contains multiple objects definitions
> > > +to allow building separated binaries, like:
> > > +
> > > +  perf-y += a.o
> > > +  perf-y += b.o
> > > +
> > > +  libperf-y += c.o
> > > +  libperf-y += d.o
> > > +
> > > +If the build framework is triggered by:
> > > +  $ make -f Makefile.build dir=krava obj=libperf
> > > +
> > > +it produces 'krava/libperf-in.o' object file that has both
> > > +a.o and b.o objects compiled in linked together.
> > 
> > Ok, question: you say those "Build" files are supplied by the user. Does
> > that mean that everyone has to go and write their own or are we still
> > using Kconfig and doing it in a more user-friendly manner?
> 
> there's no Kconfig involved in perf build at this moment..
> 
> the 'Build' Makefiles are equivalents of Kbuild/Makefile makefiles
> within the kernel build system.. I just move the 'K' out
> 
> > 
> > I've probably missed this in the whole perf fastlane development... :)
> 
> the reason for this switch is to have a first step towards
> easy config support 'kernel Kconfig style like' in build
> 
> also with this change it's easier to see how the perf binary
> is build and what flags were used for particular object..
> at least for kernel developer used to kbuild ;-)
> 
> I also believe that the support to allow just part of the perf
> code in perf binary will force the less spaghetti code ;-)

Right, making it possible for us to build a minimalistic perf will have
manifold good implications :-)

But perhaps we could continue calling it the same way as in the kernel?
I.e. we would then be using the "Kbuild" build configuration mechanism,
the K would be there just for historic reasons.

- Arnaldo
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